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From: Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>
To: Leonardo Bras <leobras@redhat.com>
Cc: Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 1/1] kvm: Note an RCU quiescent state on guest exit
Date: Sun, 12 May 2024 22:06:20 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZkFnjDZRB2x/tzVt@tpad> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZkE4N1X0wglygt75@tpad>

On Sun, May 12, 2024 at 06:44:23PM -0300, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
> On Fri, May 10, 2024 at 11:05:56PM -0300, Leonardo Bras wrote:
> > As of today, KVM notes a quiescent state only in guest entry, which is good
> > as it avoids the guest being interrupted for current RCU operations.
> > 
> > While the guest vcpu runs, it can be interrupted by a timer IRQ that will
> > check for any RCU operations waiting for this CPU. In case there are any of
> > such, it invokes rcu_core() in order to sched-out the current thread and
> > note a quiescent state.
> > 
> > This occasional schedule work will introduce tens of microsseconds of
> > latency, which is really bad for vcpus running latency-sensitive
> > applications, such as real-time workloads.
> > 
> > So, note a quiescent state in guest exit, so the interrupted guests is able
> > to deal with any pending RCU operations before being required to invoke
> > rcu_core(), and thus avoid the overhead of related scheduler work.
> 
> This does not properly fix the current problem, as RCU work might be
> scheduled after the VM exit, followed by a timer interrupt.
> 
> Correct?

Not that i am against the patch... 

But, regarding the problem at hand, it does not fix it reliably.


  reply	other threads:[~2024-05-13  1:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-05-11  2:05 [RFC PATCH 1/1] kvm: Note an RCU quiescent state on guest exit Leonardo Bras
2024-05-11  2:11 ` Leonardo Bras
2024-05-11 14:55 ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-05-11 20:31   ` Leonardo Bras
2024-05-12 21:44 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2024-05-13  1:06   ` Marcelo Tosatti [this message]
2024-05-13  3:14   ` Leonardo Bras
2024-05-13 19:14     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2024-05-13 19:40 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-05-13 21:47   ` Leonardo Bras Soares Passos
2024-05-14 22:54     ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-05-15  4:45       ` Leonardo Bras
2024-05-15 14:57         ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-06-20  7:03           ` Leonardo Bras
2024-06-20 17:26             ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-06-25  2:31               ` Leonardo Bras
2024-06-25  2:34                 ` Leonardo Bras
2024-07-10 23:18                   ` Leonardo Bras
2024-07-12 15:57                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-07-12 20:02                       ` Leonardo Bras
2024-07-29 11:28                         ` Leonardo Bras Soares Passos
2024-08-27 19:50                           ` Leonardo Bras Soares Passos
2024-09-03 18:07             ` Sean Christopherson

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