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From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: Leonardo Bras <leobras@redhat.com>
Cc: Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
	 Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,  kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 1/1] kvm: Note an RCU quiescent state on guest exit
Date: Mon, 13 May 2024 12:40:45 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZkJsvTH3Nye-TGVa@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240511020557.1198200-1-leobras@redhat.com>

On Fri, May 10, 2024, Leonardo Bras wrote:
> As of today, KVM notes a quiescent state only in guest entry, which is good
> as it avoids the guest being interrupted for current RCU operations.
> 
> While the guest vcpu runs, it can be interrupted by a timer IRQ that will
> check for any RCU operations waiting for this CPU. In case there are any of
> such, it invokes rcu_core() in order to sched-out the current thread and
> note a quiescent state.
> 
> This occasional schedule work will introduce tens of microsseconds of
> latency, which is really bad for vcpus running latency-sensitive
> applications, such as real-time workloads.
> 
> So, note a quiescent state in guest exit, so the interrupted guests is able
> to deal with any pending RCU operations before being required to invoke
> rcu_core(), and thus avoid the overhead of related scheduler work.

Are there any downsides to this?  E.g. extra latency or anything?  KVM will note
a context switch on the next VM-Enter, so even if there is extra latency or
something, KVM will eventually take the hit in the common case no matter what.
But I know some setups are sensitive to handling select VM-Exits as soon as possible.

I ask mainly because it seems like a no brainer to me to have both VM-Entry and
VM-Exit note the context switch, which begs the question of why KVM isn't already
doing that.  I assume it was just oversight when commit 126a6a542446 ("kvm,rcu,nohz:
use RCU extended quiescent state when running KVM guest") handled the VM-Entry
case?

  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-05-13 19:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-05-11  2:05 [RFC PATCH 1/1] kvm: Note an RCU quiescent state on guest exit Leonardo Bras
2024-05-11  2:11 ` Leonardo Bras
2024-05-11 14:55 ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-05-11 20:31   ` Leonardo Bras
2024-05-12 21:44 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2024-05-13  1:06   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2024-05-13  3:14   ` Leonardo Bras
2024-05-13 19:14     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2024-05-13 19:40 ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2024-05-13 21:47   ` Leonardo Bras Soares Passos
2024-05-14 22:54     ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-05-15  4:45       ` Leonardo Bras
2024-05-15 14:57         ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-06-20  7:03           ` Leonardo Bras
2024-06-20 17:26             ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-06-25  2:31               ` Leonardo Bras
2024-06-25  2:34                 ` Leonardo Bras
2024-07-10 23:18                   ` Leonardo Bras
2024-07-12 15:57                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-07-12 20:02                       ` Leonardo Bras
2024-07-29 11:28                         ` Leonardo Bras Soares Passos
2024-08-27 19:50                           ` Leonardo Bras Soares Passos
2024-09-03 18:07             ` Sean Christopherson

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