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From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: Ravi Bangoria <ravi.bangoria@amd.com>
Cc: pbonzini@redhat.com, thomas.lendacky@amd.com, tglx@linutronix.de,
	 mingo@redhat.com, bp@alien8.de, dave.hansen@linux.intel.com,
	x86@kernel.org,  hpa@zytor.com, michael.roth@amd.com,
	nikunj.dadhania@amd.com,  kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, santosh.shukla@amd.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] KVM: SEV-ES: Don't intercept MSR_IA32_DEBUGCTLMSR for SEV-ES guests
Date: Fri, 17 May 2024 07:31:55 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZkdqW8JGCrUUO3RA@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <305b84aa-3897-40f4-873b-dc512a2da61f@amd.com>

On Fri, May 17, 2024, Ravi Bangoria wrote:
> On 08-May-24 12:37 AM, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> > So unless I'm missing something, the only reason to ever disable LBRV would be
> > for performance reasons.  Indeed the original commits more or less says as much:
> > 
> >   commit 24e09cbf480a72f9c952af4ca77b159503dca44b
> >   Author:     Joerg Roedel <joerg.roedel@amd.com>
> >   AuthorDate: Wed Feb 13 18:58:47 2008 +0100
> > 
> >     KVM: SVM: enable LBR virtualization
> >     
> >     This patch implements the Last Branch Record Virtualization (LBRV) feature of
> >     the AMD Barcelona and Phenom processors into the kvm-amd module. It will only
> >     be enabled if the guest enables last branch recording in the DEBUG_CTL MSR. So
> >     there is no increased world switch overhead when the guest doesn't use these
> >     MSRs.
> > 
> > but what it _doesn't_ say is what the world switch overhead is when LBRV is
> > enabled.  If the overhead is small, e.g. 20 cycles?, then I see no reason to
> > keep the dynamically toggling.
> > 
> > And if we ditch the dynamic toggling, then this patch is unnecessary to fix the
> > LBRV issue.  It _is_ necessary to actually let the guest use the LBRs, but that's
> > a wildly different changelog and justification.
> 
> The overhead might be less for legacy LBR. But upcoming hw also supports
> LBR Stack Virtualization[1]. LBR Stack has total 34 MSRs (two control and
> 16*2 stack). Also, Legacy and Stack LBR virtualization both are controlled
> through the same VMCB bit. So I think I still need to keep the dynamic
> toggling for LBR Stack virtualization.

Please get performance number so that we can make an informed decision.  I don't
want to carry complexity because we _think_ the overhead would be too high.

  reply	other threads:[~2024-05-17 14:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-04-16  5:03 [PATCH v2] KVM: SEV-ES: Don't intercept MSR_IA32_DEBUGCTLMSR for SEV-ES guests Ravi Bangoria
2024-04-16  8:48 ` Gupta, Pankaj
2024-05-02 23:51 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-05-06  4:49   ` Ravi Bangoria
2024-05-07 19:07     ` Sean Christopherson
2024-05-17  6:18       ` Ravi Bangoria
2024-05-17 14:31         ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2024-05-20  5:04           ` Ravi Bangoria
2024-05-20  5:06             ` Ravi Bangoria
2024-05-21 20:31             ` Sean Christopherson
2024-05-21 20:47               ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-05-21 22:22                 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-05-22  6:12                   ` Ravi Bangoria
2024-05-22  6:11                 ` Ravi Bangoria
2024-05-22  8:09                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-05-22  6:11               ` Ravi Bangoria

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