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From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 9/9] KVM: x86: Disable KVM_INTEL_PROVE_VE by default
Date: Tue, 21 May 2024 11:18:28 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZkzldN0SwEhstwEB@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CABgObfYo3jR7b4ZkkuwKWbon-xAAn+Lvfux7ifQUXpDWJds1hg@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, May 21, 2024, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> On Sat, May 18, 2024 at 2:04 AM Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com> wrote:
> > Disable KVM's "prove #VE" support by default, as it provides no functional
> > value, and even its sanity checking benefits are relatively limited.  I.e.
> > it should be fully opt-in even on debug kernels, especially since EPT
> > Violation #VE suppression appears to be buggy on some CPUs.
> 
> More #VE trapping than #VE suppression.
>
> I wouldn't go so far as making it *depend* on DEBUG_KERNEL.  EXPERT
> plus the scary help message is good enough.

Works for me.

> 
> What about this:
> 
> diff --git a/arch/x86/kvm/Kconfig b/arch/x86/kvm/Kconfig
> index b6831e17ec31..2864608c7016 100644
> --- a/arch/x86/kvm/Kconfig
> +++ b/arch/x86/kvm/Kconfig
> @@ -97,14 +97,15 @@ config KVM_INTEL
> 
>  config KVM_INTEL_PROVE_VE
>          bool "Check that guests do not receive #VE exceptions"
> -        depends on KVM_INTEL && DEBUG_KERNEL && EXPERT
> +        depends on KVM_INTEL && EXPERT
>          help
>            Checks that KVM's page table management code will not incorrectly
>            let guests receive a virtualization exception.  Virtualization
>            exceptions will be trapped by the hypervisor rather than injected
>            in the guest.
> 
> -          This should never be enabled in a production environment.
> +          Note that #VE trapping appears to be buggy on some CPUs.

I see where you're coming from, but I don't think "trapping" is much better,
e.g. it suggests there's something broken with the interception of #VEs.  Ah,
the entire help text is weird.

This?

config KVM_INTEL_PROVE_VE
        bool "Verify guests do not receive unexpected EPT Violation #VEs"
        depends on KVM_INTEL && EXPERT
        help
          Enable EPT Violation #VEs (when supported) for all VMs, to verify
	  that KVM's EPT management code will not incorrectly result in a #VE
	  (KVM is supposed to supress #VEs by default).  Unexpected #VEs will
	  be intercepted by KVM and will trigger a WARN, but are otherwise
	  transparent to the guest.
	  
	  Note, EPT Violation #VE support appears to be buggy on some CPUs.

          This should never be enabled in a production environment!

          If unsure, say N.

  reply	other threads:[~2024-05-21 18:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-05-18  0:04 [PATCH 0/9] KVM: x86: Fixes for KVM_INTEL_PROVE_VE Sean Christopherson
2024-05-18  0:04 ` [PATCH 1/9] KVM: x86/mmu: Use SHADOW_NONPRESENT_VALUE for atomic zap in TDP MMU Sean Christopherson
2024-05-20 12:38   ` Huang, Kai
2024-05-21  7:21   ` Isaku Yamahata
2024-05-18  0:04 ` [PATCH 2/9] KVM: nVMX: Initialize #VE info page for vmcs02 when proving #VE support Sean Christopherson
2024-05-20 23:09   ` Huang, Kai
2024-05-20 23:22     ` Sean Christopherson
2024-05-20 23:49       ` Huang, Kai
2024-05-21  0:21         ` Sean Christopherson
2024-05-21  0:42           ` Huang, Kai
2024-05-21  1:02             ` Sean Christopherson
2024-05-18  0:04 ` [PATCH 3/9] KVM: nVMX: Always handle #VEs in L0 (never forward #VEs from L2 to L1) Sean Christopherson
2024-05-18  0:04 ` [PATCH 4/9] KVM: x86/mmu: Add sanity checks that KVM doesn't create EPT #VE SPTEs Sean Christopherson
2024-05-18  0:04 ` [PATCH 5/9] KVM: VMX: Dump VMCS on unexpected #VE Sean Christopherson
2024-05-18  0:04 ` [PATCH 6/9] KVM: x86/mmu: Print SPTEs " Sean Christopherson
2024-05-18  0:04 ` [PATCH 7/9] KVM: VMX: Don't kill the VM on an " Sean Christopherson
2024-05-18  0:04 ` [PATCH 8/9] KVM: VMX: Enumerate EPT Violation #VE support in /proc/cpuinfo Sean Christopherson
2024-05-18  0:04 ` [PATCH 9/9] KVM: x86: Disable KVM_INTEL_PROVE_VE by default Sean Christopherson
2024-05-21 17:36   ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-05-21 18:18     ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2024-05-21 20:25       ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-05-22  0:29         ` Sean Christopherson
2024-05-23 16:41 ` [PATCH 0/9] KVM: x86: Fixes for KVM_INTEL_PROVE_VE Paolo Bonzini

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