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From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: Manali Shukla <manali.shukla@amd.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org,  linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org,
	shuah@kernel.org, nikunj@amd.com,  thomas.lendacky@amd.com,
	vkuznets@redhat.com, bp@alien8.de,  ajones@ventanamicro.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 0/5] Add support for the Idle HLT intercept feature
Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2024 17:47:50 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Zl5kNh8znAYHHYuC@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CABgObfbz5kZZObu9dO=KPu8_mZvGmV1752SQzQckkrj5jPaTQg@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, May 28, 2024, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> On Tue, May 28, 2024 at 6:19 AM Manali Shukla <manali.shukla@amd.com> wrote:
> >
> > The upcoming new Idle HLT Intercept feature allows for the HLT
> > instruction execution by a vCPU to be intercepted by the hypervisor
> > only if there are no pending V_INTR and V_NMI events for the vCPU.
> > When the vCPU is expected to service the pending V_INTR and V_NMI
> > events, the Idle HLT intercept won’t trigger. The feature allows the
> > hypervisor to determine if the vCPU is actually idle and reduces
> > wasteful VMEXITs.
> 
> Does this have an effect on the number of vmexits for KVM, unless AVIC
> is enabled? Can you write a testcase for kvm-unit-tests' vmexit.flat
> that shows an improvement?
> 
> The reason I am wondering is because KVM does not really use V_INTR
> injection. The "idle HLT" intercept basically differs from the basic
> HLT trigger only in how it handles an STI;HLT sequence, as in that
> case the interrupt can be injected directly and the HLT vmexit is
> suppressed. But in that circumstance KVM would anyway use a V_INTR
> intercept to detect the opening of the interrupt injection window (and
> then the interrupt uses event injection rather than V_INTR). Again,
> this is only true if AVIC is disabled, but that is the default.
> 
> So unless I'm wrong in my analysis above, I'm not sure this series,
> albeit small, is really worth it.

But aren't we hoping to enable x2AVIC by default sooner than later?

> As things stand, it would be more interesting to enable this for nested VMs,
> especially Hyper-V which does use V_INTR and V_TPL; even better, _emulating_
> it on older processors would reduce the L2->L0->L1->L0->L2 path to a
> less-expensive L2->L0->L2 vmexit.

  reply	other threads:[~2024-06-04  0:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-05-28  4:19 [PATCH v3 0/5] Add support for the Idle HLT intercept feature Manali Shukla
2024-05-28  4:19 ` [PATCH v3 1/5] x86/cpufeatures: Add CPUID feature bit for Idle HLT intercept Manali Shukla
2024-05-28  7:42   ` Borislav Petkov
2024-05-28  4:19 ` [PATCH v3 2/5] KVM: SVM: Add Idle HLT intercept support Manali Shukla
2024-05-28  4:19 ` [PATCH v3 3/5] KVM: selftests: Add safe_halt() and cli() helpers to common code Manali Shukla
2024-05-28  4:19 ` [PATCH v3 4/5] KVM: selftests: Add an interface to read the data of named vcpu stat Manali Shukla
2024-08-13 16:37   ` Sean Christopherson
2024-10-22  5:49     ` Manali Shukla
2024-05-28  4:19 ` [PATCH v3 5/5] KVM: selftests: KVM: SVM: Add Idle HLT intercept test Manali Shukla
2024-05-28  7:46   ` Chao Gao
2024-05-30 13:19     ` Manali Shukla
2024-05-31  6:49       ` Chao Gao
2024-06-19 17:09         ` Manali Shukla
2024-08-13 15:38         ` Sean Christopherson
2024-08-13 16:03           ` Sean Christopherson
2024-05-28 10:22 ` [PATCH v3 0/5] Add support for the Idle HLT intercept feature Paolo Bonzini
2024-06-04  0:47   ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2024-06-04 13:21     ` Manali Shukla
2024-06-04 12:23   ` Manali Shukla
2024-08-13 16:19     ` Sean Christopherson
2024-10-22 10:35       ` Manali Shukla

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