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From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: Kai Huang <kai.huang@intel.com>
Cc: "kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"pbonzini@redhat.com" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	 "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Chao Gao <chao.gao@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 3/6] KVM: Add a module param to allow enabling virtualization when KVM is loaded
Date: Wed, 29 May 2024 16:07:58 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Zle1TrfeJDeXLtLk@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <291ecb3e791606c3437fc415343eb4a25e531cc3.camel@intel.com>

On Wed, May 29, 2024, Kai Huang wrote:
> On Wed, 2024-05-29 at 08:01 -0700, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> > Enabling virtualization should be entirely transparent to userspace,
> > at least from a functional perspective; if changing how KVM enables virtualization
> > breaks userspace then we likely have bigger problems.
> 
> I am not sure how should I interpret this?
> 
> "having a module param" doesn't necessarily mean "entirely transparent to
> userspace", right? :-)

Ah, sorry, that was unclear.  By "transparent to userspace" I meant the
functionality of userspace VMMs wouldn't be affected if we add (or delete) a
module param.  E.g. QEMU should work exactly the same regardless of when KVM
enables virtualization.

> > Performance is secondary for me, the primary motivation is simplifying the overall
> > KVM code base.  Yes, we _could_ use on_each_cpu() and enable virtualization
> > on-demand for TDX, but as above, it's extra complexity without any meaningful
> > benefit, at least AFAICT.
> 
> Either way works for me.
> 
> I just think using a module param to resolve some problem while there can
> be solution completely in the kernel seems overkill :-)

The module param doesn't solve the problem, e.g. we could solve this entirely
in-kernel simply by having KVM unconditionally enable virtualization during
initialization.  The module param is mostly there to continue playing nice with
out-of-tree hypervisors, and to a lesser extent to give us a "break in case of
fire" knob.

  reply	other threads:[~2024-05-29 23:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-05-22  2:28 [PATCH v2 0/6] KVM: Register cpuhp/syscore callbacks when enabling virt Sean Christopherson
2024-05-22  2:28 ` [PATCH v2 1/6] KVM: Register cpuhp and syscore callbacks when enabling hardware Sean Christopherson
2024-05-22  6:10   ` Chao Gao
2024-05-29 14:29     ` Sean Christopherson
2024-05-22  2:28 ` [PATCH v2 2/6] KVM: Rename functions related to enabling virtualization hardware Sean Christopherson
2024-05-22  7:10   ` Chao Gao
2024-05-22 22:34   ` Huang, Kai
2024-05-22  2:28 ` [PATCH v2 3/6] KVM: Add a module param to allow enabling virtualization when KVM is loaded Sean Christopherson
2024-05-22 22:27   ` Huang, Kai
2024-05-23  4:23     ` Chao Gao
2024-05-23 23:11       ` Huang, Kai
2024-05-24  2:39         ` Chao Gao
2024-05-27 22:36           ` Huang, Kai
2024-05-29 15:01             ` Sean Christopherson
2024-05-29 22:45               ` Huang, Kai
2024-05-29 23:07                 ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2024-05-30  0:06                   ` Huang, Kai
2024-05-22  2:28 ` [PATCH v2 4/6] KVM: Add arch hooks for enabling/disabling virtualization Sean Christopherson
2024-05-22 22:33   ` Huang, Kai
2024-05-28 22:50     ` Sean Christopherson
2024-05-23  5:31   ` Chao Gao
2024-05-22  2:28 ` [PATCH v2 5/6] x86/reboot: Unconditionally define cpu_emergency_virt_cb typedef Sean Christopherson
2024-05-22 22:35   ` Huang, Kai
2024-05-23  5:41   ` Chao Gao
2024-05-22  2:28 ` [PATCH v2 6/6] KVM: x86: Register "emergency disable" callbacks when virt is enabled Sean Christopherson
2024-05-22 22:37   ` Huang, Kai
2024-05-23  5:59   ` Chao Gao

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