From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: privacymiscoccasion@cock.li
Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [USB Isolation] USB virt drivers access between guests instead of host -> guest?
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2024 16:30:05 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Zp7rfbJpNDyhaZQO@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <23f30de150579d4893a493a6385f69f6@cock.li>
On Mon, Jul 22, 2024, privacymiscoccasion@cock.li wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> I'm coming over from reading about Qubes OS, which uses the Xen hypervisor.
> In Qubes, the way that untrusted devices like USBs are handled is that they
> are pass through to a VM, which then (I presume) allows other guests to
> access them using virtual drivers.
>
> I'm looking for a theoretical explanation on how this would be possible with
> KVM. I am not a developer and thus am having difficulty understanding how
> one would let a guest access virtual drivers connecting to hardware devices
> like USB and PCIe from another guest.
>
> Any help/practical examples of this would be greatly appreciated. This seems
> to be a hard topic to find and so far I haven't come across anything like
> this.
In Linux, this would be done via VFIO[1]. VFIO allows assigning devices to host
userspace, and thus to KVM guests. Very rougly speaking, most assets that get
exposed to KVM guests are proxied through host userspace. I haven't actually
read the DPDK docs[2], but if you get stuck with VFIO in particular, my guess is
that they're a good starting point (beyond any VFIO+KVM tutorials).
[1] https://docs.kernel.org/driver-api/vfio.html
[2] https://doc.dpdk.org/guides/linux_gsg/linux_drivers.html
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2024-07-22 14:11 [USB Isolation] USB virt drivers access between guests instead of host -> guest? privacymiscoccasion
2024-07-22 23:30 ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2024-07-23 2:39 ` privacymiscoccasion
2024-07-23 4:51 ` privacymiscoccasion
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