From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: Xiaoyao Li <xiaoyao.li@intel.com>,
Rick Edgecombe <rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com>,
kvm@vger.kernel.org, kai.huang@intel.com,
isaku.yamahata@gmail.com, tony.lindgren@linux.intel.com,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 25/25] KVM: x86: Add CPUID bits missing from KVM_GET_SUPPORTED_CPUID
Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2024 11:41:28 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZuM12EFbOXmpHHVQ@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CABgObfZV3-xRSALfS6syL3pzdMoep82OjWT4m7=4fLRaiWp=XQ@mail.gmail.com>
On Thu, Sep 12, 2024, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 12, 2024 at 6:42 PM Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 12, 2024, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> > > On Thu, Sep 12, 2024 at 4:45 PM Xiaoyao Li <xiaoyao.li@intel.com> wrote:
> > > > > KVM is not going to have any checks, it's only going to pass the
> > > > > CPUID to the TDX module and return an error if the check fails
> > > > > in the TDX module.
> > > >
> > > > If so, new feature can be enabled for TDs out of KVM's control.
> > > >
> > > > Is it acceptable?
> > >
> > > It's the same as for non-TDX VMs, I think it's acceptable.
> >
> > No? IIUC, it's not the same.
> >
> > E.g. KVM doesn't yet support CET, and while userspace can enumerate CET support
> > to VMs all it wants, guests will never be able to set CR4.CET and thus can't
> > actually enable CET.
> >
> > IIUC, the proposal here is to allow userspace to configure the features that are
> > exposed _and enabled_ for a TDX VM without any enforcement from KVM.
>
> Yeah, that's correct, on the other hand a lot of features are just
> new instructions and no new registers. Those pass under the radar
> and in fact you can even use them if the CPUID bit is 0 (of course).
> Others are just data, and again you can pass any crap you'd like.
Right, I don't care about those precisely because there's nothing KVM can or
_needs_ to do for features that don't have interception controls.
> And for SNP we had the case where we are forced to leave features
> enabled if their state is in the VMSA, because we cannot block
> writes to XCR0 and XSS that we'd like to be invalid.
Oh, I'm well aware :-)
> > CET might be a bad example because it looks like it's controlled by TDCS.XFAM, but
> > presumably there are other CPUID-based features that would actively enable some
> > feature for a TDX VM.
>
> XFAM is controlled by userspace though, not KVM, so we've got no
> control on that either.
I assume it's plain text though? I.e. whatever ioctl() sets TDCS.XFAM can be
rejected by KVM if it attempts to enable unsupported features?
I don't expect that we'll want KVM to gatekeep many, if any features, but I do
think we should require explicit enabling in KVM whenever possible, even if the
enabling is boring and largely ceremonial.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-09-12 18:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 191+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-08-12 22:47 [PATCH 00/25] TDX vCPU/VM creation Rick Edgecombe
2024-08-12 22:47 ` [PATCH 01/25] KVM: TDX: Add placeholders for TDX VM/vCPU structures Rick Edgecombe
2024-09-10 16:00 ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-08-12 22:47 ` [PATCH 02/25] KVM: TDX: Define TDX architectural definitions Rick Edgecombe
2024-08-29 13:25 ` Xiaoyao Li
2024-08-29 19:46 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-08-30 1:29 ` Xiaoyao Li
2024-08-30 4:45 ` Tony Lindgren
2024-09-10 16:21 ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-09-10 17:49 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-08-12 22:47 ` [PATCH 03/25] KVM: TDX: Add TDX "architectural" error codes Rick Edgecombe
2024-08-13 6:08 ` Binbin Wu
2024-08-29 5:24 ` Tony Lindgren
2024-08-30 5:52 ` Tony Lindgren
2024-09-10 16:22 ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-09-11 5:58 ` Tony Lindgren
2024-08-12 22:47 ` [PATCH 04/25] KVM: TDX: Add C wrapper functions for SEAMCALLs to the TDX module Rick Edgecombe
2024-08-12 22:48 ` [PATCH 05/25] KVM: TDX: Add helper functions to print TDX SEAMCALL error Rick Edgecombe
2024-08-13 16:32 ` Isaku Yamahata
2024-08-13 22:34 ` Huang, Kai
2024-08-14 0:31 ` Isaku Yamahata
2024-08-30 5:56 ` Tony Lindgren
2024-08-12 22:48 ` [PATCH 06/25] x86/virt/tdx: Export TDX KeyID information Rick Edgecombe
2024-08-30 18:45 ` Dave Hansen
2024-08-30 19:16 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-08-30 21:18 ` Dave Hansen
2024-09-10 16:26 ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-08-12 22:48 ` [PATCH 07/25] KVM: TDX: Add helper functions to allocate/free TDX private host key id Rick Edgecombe
2024-09-10 16:27 ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-09-10 16:39 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-09-10 16:42 ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-09-10 16:43 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-08-12 22:48 ` [PATCH 08/25] KVM: TDX: Add place holder for TDX VM specific mem_enc_op ioctl Rick Edgecombe
2024-08-13 6:25 ` Binbin Wu
2024-08-13 16:37 ` Isaku Yamahata
2024-08-30 6:00 ` Tony Lindgren
2024-08-12 22:48 ` [PATCH 09/25] KVM: TDX: Get system-wide info about TDX module on initialization Rick Edgecombe
2024-08-13 6:47 ` Binbin Wu
2024-08-30 6:59 ` Tony Lindgren
2024-08-14 6:18 ` Binbin Wu
2024-08-21 0:11 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-08-21 6:14 ` Tony Lindgren
2024-08-15 7:59 ` Xu Yilun
2024-08-30 7:21 ` Tony Lindgren
2024-09-02 1:25 ` Xu Yilun
2024-09-02 5:05 ` Tony Lindgren
2024-08-12 22:48 ` [PATCH 10/25] KVM: TDX: Initialize KVM supported capabilities when module setup Rick Edgecombe
2024-08-13 3:25 ` Chao Gao
2024-08-13 5:26 ` Huang, Kai
2024-08-30 8:44 ` Tony Lindgren
2024-08-13 7:24 ` Binbin Wu
2024-08-14 0:26 ` Chao Gao
2024-08-14 2:36 ` Binbin Wu
2024-08-30 8:34 ` Tony Lindgren
2024-09-10 16:58 ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-09-11 11:07 ` Tony Lindgren
2024-09-03 16:53 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-08-19 1:33 ` Tao Su
2024-08-29 13:28 ` Xiaoyao Li
2024-08-26 11:04 ` Nikolay Borisov
2024-08-29 4:51 ` Tony Lindgren
2024-09-10 17:15 ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-09-11 11:04 ` Tony Lindgren
2024-10-10 8:25 ` Xiaoyao Li
2024-10-10 9:49 ` Tony Lindgren
2024-09-04 11:58 ` Nikolay Borisov
2024-09-05 13:36 ` Xiaoyao Li
2024-09-12 8:04 ` Nikolay Borisov
2024-09-12 8:37 ` Xiaoyao Li
2024-09-12 8:43 ` Nikolay Borisov
2024-09-12 9:07 ` Xiaoyao Li
2024-09-12 15:12 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-09-12 15:18 ` Nikolay Borisov
2024-08-12 22:48 ` [PATCH 11/25] KVM: TDX: Report kvm_tdx_caps in KVM_TDX_CAPABILITIES Rick Edgecombe
2024-08-13 3:35 ` Chao Gao
2024-08-19 10:24 ` Nikolay Borisov
2024-08-21 0:06 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-08-12 22:48 ` [PATCH 12/25] KVM: TDX: Allow userspace to configure maximum vCPUs for TDX guests Rick Edgecombe
2024-08-19 1:17 ` Tao Su
2024-08-21 0:12 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-08-30 8:53 ` Tony Lindgren
2024-09-30 2:14 ` Xiaoyao Li
2024-08-12 22:48 ` [PATCH 13/25] KVM: TDX: create/destroy VM structure Rick Edgecombe
2024-08-14 3:08 ` Yuan Yao
2024-08-21 6:13 ` Tony Lindgren
2024-08-16 7:31 ` Xu Yilun
2024-08-30 9:26 ` Tony Lindgren
2024-08-19 15:09 ` Nikolay Borisov
2024-08-21 0:23 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-08-21 5:39 ` Tony Lindgren
2024-08-21 16:52 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-08-30 9:40 ` Tony Lindgren
2024-09-02 9:22 ` Tony Lindgren
2024-08-12 22:48 ` [PATCH 14/25] KVM: TDX: initialize VM with TDX specific parameters Rick Edgecombe
2024-08-19 15:35 ` Nikolay Borisov
2024-08-21 0:01 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-08-29 6:27 ` Yan Zhao
2024-09-02 10:31 ` Tony Lindgren
2024-09-05 6:59 ` Yan Zhao
2024-09-05 9:27 ` Tony Lindgren
2024-09-06 4:05 ` Yan Zhao
2024-09-06 4:32 ` Tony Lindgren
2024-09-06 13:52 ` Wang, Wei W
2024-09-03 2:58 ` Chenyi Qiang
2024-09-03 5:44 ` Tony Lindgren
2024-09-03 8:04 ` Chenyi Qiang
2024-09-05 9:31 ` Tony Lindgren
2024-10-01 20:45 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-10-02 23:39 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-08-12 22:48 ` [PATCH 15/25] KVM: TDX: Make pmu_intel.c ignore guest TD case Rick Edgecombe
2024-09-10 17:23 ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-10-01 10:23 ` Tony Lindgren
2024-08-12 22:48 ` [PATCH 16/25] KVM: TDX: Don't offline the last cpu of one package when there's TDX guest Rick Edgecombe
2024-08-13 8:37 ` Binbin Wu
2024-08-12 22:48 ` [PATCH 17/25] KVM: TDX: create/free TDX vcpu structure Rick Edgecombe
2024-08-13 9:15 ` Binbin Wu
2024-09-02 10:50 ` Tony Lindgren
2024-08-19 16:46 ` Nikolay Borisov
2024-08-29 5:00 ` Tony Lindgren
2024-08-29 6:41 ` Yan Zhao
2024-08-12 22:48 ` [PATCH 18/25] KVM: TDX: Do TDX specific vcpu initialization Rick Edgecombe
2024-08-13 8:00 ` Yuan Yao
2024-08-13 17:21 ` Isaku Yamahata
2024-08-14 1:20 ` Yuan Yao
2024-08-15 0:47 ` Isaku Yamahata
2024-09-03 5:23 ` Tony Lindgren
2024-10-09 15:01 ` Adrian Hunter
2024-10-16 17:42 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-10-18 2:21 ` Xiaoyao Li
2024-10-18 14:20 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-10-21 8:35 ` Xiaoyao Li
2024-10-26 1:12 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-08-28 14:34 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-09-03 5:34 ` Tony Lindgren
2024-08-12 22:48 ` [PATCH 19/25] KVM: X86: Introduce kvm_get_supported_cpuid_internal() Rick Edgecombe
2024-08-12 22:48 ` [PATCH 20/25] KVM: X86: Introduce tdx_get_kvm_supported_cpuid() Rick Edgecombe
2024-08-12 22:48 ` [PATCH 21/25] KVM: x86: Introduce KVM_TDX_GET_CPUID Rick Edgecombe
2024-08-19 2:59 ` Tao Su
2024-09-03 6:21 ` Tony Lindgren
2024-09-10 17:27 ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-08-19 5:02 ` Xu Yilun
2024-09-03 7:19 ` Tony Lindgren
2024-09-10 17:29 ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-09-11 11:11 ` Tony Lindgren
2024-08-26 14:09 ` Nikolay Borisov
2024-08-26 17:46 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-08-27 12:19 ` Nikolay Borisov
2024-08-27 20:40 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-09-30 6:26 ` Xiaoyao Li
2024-09-30 16:22 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-08-12 22:48 ` [PATCH 22/25] KVM: TDX: Use guest physical address to configure EPT level and GPAW Rick Edgecombe
2024-09-10 17:31 ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-10-10 9:13 ` Xiaoyao Li
2024-10-10 10:36 ` Tony Lindgren
2024-08-12 22:48 ` [PATCH 23/25] KVM: x86/mmu: Taking guest pa into consideration when calculate tdp level Rick Edgecombe
2024-09-10 17:33 ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-08-12 22:48 ` [PATCH 24/25] KVM: x86: Filter directly configurable TDX CPUID bits Rick Edgecombe
2024-08-19 5:02 ` Xu Yilun
2024-09-03 7:51 ` Tony Lindgren
2024-09-10 17:36 ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-08-12 22:48 ` [PATCH 25/25] KVM: x86: Add CPUID bits missing from KVM_GET_SUPPORTED_CPUID Rick Edgecombe
2024-08-13 11:34 ` Chao Gao
2024-08-13 15:14 ` Xiaoyao Li
2024-08-14 0:47 ` Chao Gao
2024-08-14 1:16 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-08-14 10:46 ` Chao Gao
2024-08-14 13:35 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-08-14 17:35 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-08-14 21:22 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-08-13 18:45 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-08-14 1:10 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-08-14 11:36 ` Chao Gao
2024-08-14 17:17 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-09-10 17:52 ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-09-12 7:48 ` Xiaoyao Li
2024-09-12 14:09 ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-09-12 14:45 ` Xiaoyao Li
2024-09-12 14:48 ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-09-12 15:26 ` Xiaoyao Li
2024-09-12 16:42 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-09-12 18:29 ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-09-12 18:41 ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2024-09-13 3:54 ` Xiaoyao Li
2024-09-12 18:42 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-09-13 3:57 ` Xiaoyao Li
2024-09-12 15:07 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-09-12 15:37 ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-09-12 16:38 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-08-15 5:20 ` [PATCH 00/25] TDX vCPU/VM creation Tony Lindgren
2024-08-15 23:46 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-08-16 5:18 ` Tony Lindgren
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=ZuM12EFbOXmpHHVQ@google.com \
--to=seanjc@google.com \
--cc=isaku.yamahata@gmail.com \
--cc=kai.huang@intel.com \
--cc=kvm@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=pbonzini@redhat.com \
--cc=rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com \
--cc=tony.lindgren@linux.intel.com \
--cc=xiaoyao.li@intel.com \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).