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From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: Denis Plotnikov <den-plotnikov@yandex-team.ru>
Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org, pbonzini@redhat.com, yc-core@yandex-team.ru,
	 linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] kvm/debugfs: add file to get vcpu steal time statistics
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2024 08:44:34 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZvrHYoAuu2AntQYb@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <942ec747-04f6-4fd6-abcd-eea60c3ba041@yandex-team.ru>

On Mon, Sep 30, 2024, Denis Plotnikov wrote:
> 
> 
> On 9/23/24 14:46, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> > On Mon, Sep 23, 2024, Denis Plotnikov wrote:
> > > On 9/22/24 11:04, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> > > > On Tue, Sep 17, 2024, Denis Plotnikov wrote:
> > > > > It's helpful to know whether some other host activity affects a virtual
> > > > > machine to estimate virtual machine quality of sevice.
> > > > > The fact of virtual machine affection from the host side can be obtained
> > > > > by reading "preemption_reported" counter via kvm entries of sysfs, but
> > > > > the exact vcpu waiting time isn't reported to the host.
> > > > > This patch adds this reporting.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Signed-off-by: Denis Plotnikov <den-plotnikov@yandex-team.ru>
> > > > > ---
> > > > >    arch/x86/include/asm/kvm_host.h |  1 +
> > > > >    arch/x86/kvm/debugfs.c          | 17 +++++++++++++++++
> > > > 
> > > > Using debugfs is undesirable, as it's (a) not ABI and (b) not guaranteed to be
> > > > present as KVM (correctly) ignores debugfs setup errors.
> > > > 
> > > > Using debugfs is also unnecessary.  The total steal time is available in guest
> > > > memory, and by definition that memory is shared with the host.  To query total
> > > > steal time from userspace, use MSR filtering to trap writes (and reflect writes
> > > > back into KVM) so that the GPA of the steal time structure is known, and then
> > > > simply read the actual steal time from guest memory as needed.
> > > Thanks for the reply!
> > > Just to clarify, by reading the actual steal time from guest memory do you
> > > mean by using some kind of new vcpu ioctl?
> > 
> > No, I mean by using the host userspace VMA to read the memory.
> 
> Oh, I think I got your idea. You mean
> using KVM_CAP_X86_MSR_FILTER which...
> 
> "In combination with KVM_CAP_X86_USER_SPACE_MSR, this allows user space to
> trap and emulate MSRs ..."
> 
> And then having guest's steal time struct valid address read the value from
> userspace VMM like qemu directly.

Yep, exactly!

  reply	other threads:[~2024-09-30 15:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-09-17 11:20 [PATCH] kvm/debugfs: add file to get vcpu steal time statistics Denis Plotnikov
2024-09-22  8:04 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-09-23  9:32   ` Denis Plotnikov
2024-09-23 11:46     ` Sean Christopherson
2024-09-30 14:29       ` Denis Plotnikov
2024-09-30 15:44         ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2024-11-05 12:43           ` Denis Plotnikov
2024-11-26  9:54             ` Denis Plotnikov

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