From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: Ackerley Tng <ackerleytng@google.com>
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 30/39] KVM: guest_memfd: Handle folio preparation for guest_memfd mmap
Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2024 12:30:13 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZwWIRW7zoX2PBsnF@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <diqzwmiosqfs.fsf@ackerleytng-ctop.c.googlers.com>
On Thu, Oct 03, 2024, Ackerley Tng wrote:
> Ackerley Tng <ackerleytng@google.com> writes:
>
> > Elliot Berman <quic_eberman@quicinc.com> writes:
> >> From x86 CoCo perspective, I think it also makes sense to not zero
> >> the folio when changing faultiblity from private to shared:
> >> - If guest is sharing some data with host, you've wiped the data and
> >> guest has to copy again.
> >> - Or, if SEV/TDX enforces that page is zero'd between transitions,
> >> Linux has duplicated the work that trusted entity has already done.
> >>
> >> Fuad and I can help add some details for the conversion. Hopefully we
> >> can figure out some of the plan at plumbers this week.
> >
> > Zeroing the page prevents leaking host data (see function docstring for
> > kvm_gmem_prepare_folio() introduced in [1]), so we definitely don't want
> > to introduce a kernel data leak bug here.
>
> Actually it seems like filemap_grab_folio() already gets a zeroed page.
>
> filemap_grab_folio() eventually calls __alloc_pages_noprof()
> -> get_page_from_freelist()
> -> prep_new_page()
> -> post_alloc_hook()
>
> and post_alloc_hook() calls kernel_init_pages(), which zeroes the page,
> depending on kernel config.
>
> Paolo, was calling clear_highpage() in kvm_gmem_prepare_folio() zeroing an
> already empty page returned from filemap_grab_folio()?
Yes and no. CONFIG_INIT_ON_ALLOC_DEFAULT_ON and init_on_alloc are very much
hardening features, not functional behavior that other code _needs_ to be aware
of. E.g. enabling init-on-alloc comes with a measurable performance cost.
Ignoring hardening, the guest_memfd mapping specifically sets the gfp_mask to
GFP_HIGHUSER, i.e. doesn't set __GFP_ZERO.
That said, I wouldn't be opposed to skipping the clear_highpage() call when
want_init_on_alloc() is true.
Also, the intended behavior (or at least, what intended) of kvm_gmem_prepare_folio()
was it would do clear_highpage() if and only if a trusted entity does NOT zero
the page. Factoring that in is a bit harder, as it probably requires another
arch hook (or providing an out-param from kvm_arch_gmem_prepare()). I.e. the
want_init_on_alloc() case isn't the only time KVM could shave cycles by not
redundantly zeroing memory.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-10-08 19:30 UTC|newest]
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2024-09-10 23:43 [RFC PATCH 00/39] 1G page support for guest_memfd Ackerley Tng
2024-09-10 23:43 ` [RFC PATCH 01/39] mm: hugetlb: Simplify logic in dequeue_hugetlb_folio_vma() Ackerley Tng
2024-09-10 23:43 ` [RFC PATCH 02/39] mm: hugetlb: Refactor vma_has_reserves() to should_use_hstate_resv() Ackerley Tng
2024-09-10 23:43 ` [RFC PATCH 03/39] mm: hugetlb: Remove unnecessary check for avoid_reserve Ackerley Tng
2024-09-10 23:43 ` [RFC PATCH 04/39] mm: mempolicy: Refactor out policy_node_nodemask() Ackerley Tng
2024-09-11 16:46 ` Gregory Price
2024-09-10 23:43 ` [RFC PATCH 05/39] mm: hugetlb: Refactor alloc_buddy_hugetlb_folio_with_mpol() to interpret mempolicy instead of vma Ackerley Tng
2024-09-10 23:43 ` [RFC PATCH 06/39] mm: hugetlb: Refactor dequeue_hugetlb_folio_vma() to use mpol Ackerley Tng
2024-09-10 23:43 ` [RFC PATCH 07/39] mm: hugetlb: Refactor out hugetlb_alloc_folio Ackerley Tng
2024-09-10 23:43 ` [RFC PATCH 08/39] mm: truncate: Expose preparation steps for truncate_inode_pages_final Ackerley Tng
2024-09-10 23:43 ` [RFC PATCH 09/39] mm: hugetlb: Expose hugetlb_subpool_{get,put}_pages() Ackerley Tng
2024-09-10 23:43 ` [RFC PATCH 10/39] mm: hugetlb: Add option to create new subpool without using surplus Ackerley Tng
2024-09-10 23:43 ` [RFC PATCH 11/39] mm: hugetlb: Expose hugetlb_acct_memory() Ackerley Tng
2024-09-10 23:43 ` [RFC PATCH 12/39] mm: hugetlb: Move and expose hugetlb_zero_partial_page() Ackerley Tng
2024-09-10 23:43 ` [RFC PATCH 13/39] KVM: guest_memfd: Make guest mem use guest mem inodes instead of anonymous inodes Ackerley Tng
2025-04-02 4:01 ` Yan Zhao
2025-04-23 20:22 ` Ackerley Tng
2025-04-24 3:53 ` Yan Zhao
2024-09-10 23:43 ` [RFC PATCH 14/39] KVM: guest_memfd: hugetlb: initialization and cleanup Ackerley Tng
2024-09-20 9:17 ` Vishal Annapurve
2024-10-01 23:00 ` Ackerley Tng
2024-12-01 17:59 ` Peter Xu
2025-02-13 9:47 ` Ackerley Tng
2025-02-26 18:55 ` Ackerley Tng
2025-03-06 17:33 ` Peter Xu
2024-09-10 23:43 ` [RFC PATCH 15/39] KVM: guest_memfd: hugetlb: allocate and truncate from hugetlb Ackerley Tng
2024-09-13 22:26 ` Elliot Berman
2024-10-03 20:23 ` Ackerley Tng
2024-10-30 9:01 ` Jun Miao
2025-02-11 1:21 ` Ackerley Tng
2024-12-01 17:55 ` Peter Xu
2025-02-13 7:52 ` Ackerley Tng
2025-02-13 16:48 ` Peter Xu
2024-09-10 23:43 ` [RFC PATCH 16/39] KVM: guest_memfd: Add page alignment check for hugetlb guest_memfd Ackerley Tng
2024-09-10 23:43 ` [RFC PATCH 17/39] KVM: selftests: Add basic selftests for hugetlb-backed guest_memfd Ackerley Tng
2024-09-10 23:43 ` [RFC PATCH 18/39] KVM: selftests: Support various types of backing sources for private memory Ackerley Tng
2024-09-10 23:43 ` [RFC PATCH 19/39] KVM: selftests: Update test for various private memory backing source types Ackerley Tng
2024-09-10 23:43 ` [RFC PATCH 20/39] KVM: selftests: Add private_mem_conversions_test.sh Ackerley Tng
2024-09-10 23:43 ` [RFC PATCH 21/39] KVM: selftests: Test that guest_memfd usage is reported via hugetlb Ackerley Tng
2024-09-10 23:43 ` [RFC PATCH 22/39] mm: hugetlb: Expose vmemmap optimization functions Ackerley Tng
2024-09-10 23:43 ` [RFC PATCH 23/39] mm: hugetlb: Expose HugeTLB functions for promoting/demoting pages Ackerley Tng
2024-09-10 23:43 ` [RFC PATCH 24/39] mm: hugetlb: Add functions to add/move/remove from hugetlb lists Ackerley Tng
2024-09-10 23:43 ` [RFC PATCH 25/39] KVM: guest_memfd: Split HugeTLB pages for guest_memfd use Ackerley Tng
2024-09-10 23:43 ` [RFC PATCH 26/39] KVM: guest_memfd: Track faultability within a struct kvm_gmem_private Ackerley Tng
2024-10-10 16:06 ` Peter Xu
2024-10-11 23:32 ` Ackerley Tng
2024-10-15 21:34 ` Peter Xu
2024-10-15 23:42 ` Ackerley Tng
2024-10-16 8:45 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-10-16 20:16 ` Peter Xu
2024-10-16 22:51 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-10-16 23:49 ` Peter Xu
2024-10-16 23:54 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-10-17 14:58 ` Peter Xu
2024-10-17 16:47 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-10-17 17:05 ` Peter Xu
2024-10-17 17:10 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-10-17 19:11 ` Peter Xu
2024-10-17 19:18 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-10-17 19:29 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-10-18 7:15 ` Patrick Roy
2024-10-18 7:50 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-10-18 9:34 ` Patrick Roy
2024-10-17 17:11 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-10-17 17:16 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-10-17 17:55 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-10-17 18:26 ` Vishal Annapurve
2024-10-17 14:56 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-10-17 15:02 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-10-16 8:50 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-10-16 10:48 ` Vishal Annapurve
2024-10-16 11:54 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-10-16 11:57 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-02-25 20:37 ` Peter Xu
2025-04-23 22:07 ` Ackerley Tng
2024-09-10 23:43 ` [RFC PATCH 27/39] KVM: guest_memfd: Allow mmapping guest_memfd files Ackerley Tng
2025-01-20 22:42 ` Peter Xu
2025-04-23 20:25 ` Ackerley Tng
2025-03-04 23:24 ` Peter Xu
2025-04-02 4:07 ` Yan Zhao
2025-04-23 20:28 ` Ackerley Tng
2024-09-10 23:43 ` [RFC PATCH 28/39] KVM: guest_memfd: Use vm_type to determine default faultability Ackerley Tng
2024-09-10 23:44 ` [RFC PATCH 29/39] KVM: Handle conversions in the SET_MEMORY_ATTRIBUTES ioctl Ackerley Tng
2024-09-10 23:44 ` [RFC PATCH 30/39] KVM: guest_memfd: Handle folio preparation for guest_memfd mmap Ackerley Tng
2024-09-16 20:00 ` Elliot Berman
2024-10-03 21:32 ` Ackerley Tng
2024-10-03 23:43 ` Ackerley Tng
2024-10-08 19:30 ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2024-10-07 15:56 ` Patrick Roy
2024-10-08 18:07 ` Ackerley Tng
2024-10-08 19:56 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-10-09 3:51 ` Manwaring, Derek
2024-10-09 13:52 ` Andrew Cooper
2024-10-10 16:21 ` Patrick Roy
2024-10-10 19:27 ` Manwaring, Derek
2024-10-17 23:16 ` Ackerley Tng
2024-10-18 7:10 ` Patrick Roy
2024-09-10 23:44 ` [RFC PATCH 31/39] KVM: selftests: Allow vm_set_memory_attributes to be used without asserting return value of 0 Ackerley Tng
2024-09-10 23:44 ` [RFC PATCH 32/39] KVM: selftests: Test using guest_memfd memory from userspace Ackerley Tng
2024-09-10 23:44 ` [RFC PATCH 33/39] KVM: selftests: Test guest_memfd memory sharing between guest and host Ackerley Tng
2024-09-10 23:44 ` [RFC PATCH 34/39] KVM: selftests: Add notes in private_mem_kvm_exits_test for mmap-able guest_memfd Ackerley Tng
2024-09-10 23:44 ` [RFC PATCH 35/39] KVM: selftests: Test that pinned pages block KVM from setting memory attributes to PRIVATE Ackerley Tng
2024-09-10 23:44 ` [RFC PATCH 36/39] KVM: selftests: Refactor vm_mem_add to be more flexible Ackerley Tng
2024-09-10 23:44 ` [RFC PATCH 37/39] KVM: selftests: Add helper to perform madvise by memslots Ackerley Tng
2024-09-10 23:44 ` [RFC PATCH 38/39] KVM: selftests: Update private_mem_conversions_test for mmap()able guest_memfd Ackerley Tng
2024-09-10 23:44 ` [RFC PATCH 39/39] KVM: guest_memfd: Dynamically split/reconstruct HugeTLB page Ackerley Tng
2025-04-03 12:33 ` Yan Zhao
2025-04-23 22:02 ` Ackerley Tng
2025-04-24 1:09 ` Yan Zhao
2025-04-24 4:25 ` Yan Zhao
2025-04-24 5:55 ` Chenyi Qiang
2025-04-24 8:13 ` Yan Zhao
2025-04-24 14:10 ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-04-24 18:15 ` Ackerley Tng
2025-04-25 4:02 ` Yan Zhao
2025-04-25 22:45 ` Ackerley Tng
2025-04-28 1:05 ` Yan Zhao
2025-04-28 19:02 ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-04-30 20:09 ` Ackerley Tng
2025-05-06 1:23 ` Yan Zhao
2025-05-06 19:22 ` Ackerley Tng
2025-05-07 3:15 ` Yan Zhao
2025-05-13 17:33 ` Ackerley Tng
2024-09-11 6:56 ` [RFC PATCH 00/39] 1G page support for guest_memfd Michal Hocko
2024-09-14 1:08 ` Du, Fan
2024-09-14 13:34 ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-01-28 9:42 ` Amit Shah
2025-02-03 8:35 ` Ackerley Tng
2025-02-06 11:07 ` Amit Shah
2025-02-07 6:25 ` Ackerley Tng
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