public inbox for kvm@vger.kernel.org
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: Bernhard Kauer <bk@alpico.io>
Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] KVM: drop the kvm_has_noapic_vcpu optimization
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2024 10:32:59 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Zxfhy9uifey4wShq@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20241018100919.33814-1-bk@alpico.io>

On Fri, Oct 18, 2024, Bernhard Kauer wrote:
> It used a static key to avoid loading the lapic pointer from
> the vcpu->arch structure.  However, in the common case the load
> is from a hot cacheline and the CPU should be able to perfectly
> predict it. Thus there is no upside of this premature optimization.

Do you happen to have performance numbers?  I've been itching for an excuse to
excise this code for a few years now, the only reason I haven't ripped it out is
because I didn't want to do so without numbers to back up my claim that it's a
premature optimization.

In other words, I agree with your analysis, but I don't want to yank out the code
without at least _some_ numbers to back up the claim, because then we're essentially
committing the same crime of optimizing without measuring.

> The downside is that code patching including an IPI to all CPUs
> is required whenever the first VM without an lapic is created or
> the last is destroyed.

In practice, this almost never happens though.  Do you have a use case for
creating VMs without in-kernel local APICs?

  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-10-22 17:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-10-18 10:08 [PATCH] KVM: drop the kvm_has_noapic_vcpu optimization Bernhard Kauer
2024-10-21  7:43 ` Chao Gao
2024-10-22 17:32 ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2024-10-22 19:08   ` Bernhard Kauer
2024-10-31 16:24     ` Sean Christopherson
2024-10-31 20:08       ` Bernhard Kauer
2024-10-31 23:29         ` Sean Christopherson
2024-11-01  8:55           ` Bernhard Kauer
2024-11-01 14:49             ` Sean Christopherson
2024-11-15  9:12               ` Bernhard Kauer

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=Zxfhy9uifey4wShq@google.com \
    --to=seanjc@google.com \
    --cc=bk@alpico.io \
    --cc=kvm@vger.kernel.org \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox