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From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: "Pratik R. Sampat" <pratikrajesh.sampat@amd.com>
Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org, pbonzini@redhat.com, pgonda@google.com,
	 thomas.lendacky@amd.com, michael.roth@amd.com, shuah@kernel.org,
	 linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 2/9] KVM: selftests: Add a basic SNP smoke test
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2024 15:47:51 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZyldJ_ociCLg-b9a@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <99e64d8e-2d10-41c7-8b7e-cd059c7e7f29@amd.com>

On Mon, Nov 04, 2024, Pratik R. Sampat wrote:
> 
> 
> On 10/31/2024 11:27 AM, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> > On Thu, Oct 31, 2024, Pratik R. Sampat wrote:
> >> Hi Sean,
> >>
> >> On 10/30/2024 12:57 PM, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> >>> On Wed, Oct 30, 2024, Pratik R. Sampat wrote:
> >>>> On 10/30/2024 8:46 AM, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> >>>>> +/* Minimum firmware version required for the SEV-SNP support */
> >>>>> +#define SNP_FW_REQ_VER_MAJOR   1
> >>>>> +#define SNP_FW_REQ_VER_MINOR   51
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Side topic, why are these hardcoded?  And where did they come from?  If they're
> >>>>> arbitrary KVM selftests values, make that super duper clear.
> >>>>
> >>>> Well, it's not entirely arbitrary. This was the version that SNP GA'd
> >>>> with first so that kind of became the minimum required version needed.
> >>>>
> >>>> I think the only place we've documented this is here -
> >>>> https://github.com/AMDESE/AMDSEV/tree/snp-latest?tab=readme-ov-file#upgrade-sev-firmware.
> >>>>
> >>>> Maybe, I can modify the comment above to say something like -
> >>>> Minimum general availability release firmware required for SEV-SNP support.
> >>>
> >>> Hmm, so if AMD says SNP is only supported for firmware version >= 1.51, why on
> >>> earth is that not checked and enforced by the kernel?  Relying on userspace to
> >>> not crash the host (or worse) because of unsupported firmware is not a winning
> >>> strategy.
> >>
> >> We do check against the firmware level 1.51 while setting things up
> >> first (drivers/crypto/ccp/sev-dev.c:__sev_snp_init_locked()) and we bail
> >> out if it's otherwise. From the userspace, calls to KVM_SEV_INIT2 or any
> >> other corresponding SNP calls should fail cleanly without any adverse
> >> effects to the host.
> > 
> > And I'm saying, that's not good enough.  If the platform doesn't support SNP,
> > the KVM *must not* advertise support for SNP.
> > 
> 
> Sure, fair to expect this. Currently, if the FW check fails, SNP is not
> setup and there is nothing that indicates in the KVM capabilities (apart
> from one dmesg error) that the support does not exist.
> 
> One thing I could do (as an independent patch) is to introduce a CC API
> that abstracts the FW version check made by the CCP module. Since sev
> platform status can be gotten before INIT to extract the major and minor
> version numbers, KVM can also call into this API and use that to decide
> if the KVM capabilities for SNP must be set or not.

Why is CC_ATTR_HOST_SEV_SNP set if hardware/firmware can't actually support SNP?
KVM shouldn't have to care about some arbitrary firmware API version, the whole
point of a driver is so that KVM doesn't have to deal with such details.

I'm a-ok with a KVM selftest *asserting* that the kernel isn't broken, but KVM
itself shouldn't need to manually check the firmware version.

  reply	other threads:[~2024-11-04 23:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-09-05 12:40 [PATCH v3 0/9] SEV Kernel Selftests Pratik R. Sampat
2024-09-05 12:40 ` [PATCH v3 1/9] KVM: selftests: Decouple SEV ioctls from asserts Pratik R. Sampat
2024-10-14 22:18   ` Sean Christopherson
2024-10-21 20:23     ` Pratik R. Sampat
2024-09-05 12:41 ` [PATCH v3 2/9] KVM: selftests: Add a basic SNP smoke test Pratik R. Sampat
2024-10-14 22:46   ` Sean Christopherson
2024-10-21 20:23     ` Pratik R. Sampat
2024-10-28 17:55       ` Sean Christopherson
2024-10-28 20:41         ` Pratik R. Sampat
2024-10-30 13:46           ` Sean Christopherson
2024-10-30 16:35             ` Pratik R. Sampat
2024-10-30 17:57               ` Sean Christopherson
2024-10-31 15:45                 ` Pratik R. Sampat
2024-10-31 16:27                   ` Sean Christopherson
2024-11-04 20:21                     ` Pratik R. Sampat
2024-11-04 23:47                       ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2024-11-05  4:14                         ` Pratik R. Sampat
2024-09-05 12:41 ` [PATCH v3 3/9] KVM: selftests: Add SNP to shutdown testing Pratik R. Sampat
2024-09-05 12:41 ` [PATCH v3 4/9] KVM: selftests: SEV IOCTL test Pratik R. Sampat
2024-09-05 12:41 ` [PATCH v3 5/9] KVM: selftests: SNP " Pratik R. Sampat
2024-09-05 12:41 ` [PATCH v3 6/9] KVM: selftests: SEV-SNP test for KVM_SEV_INIT2 Pratik R. Sampat
2024-09-05 12:41 ` [PATCH v3 7/9] KVM: selftests: Add interface to manually flag protected/encrypted ranges Pratik R. Sampat
2024-10-14 22:58   ` Sean Christopherson
2024-10-21 20:23     ` Pratik R. Sampat
2024-09-05 12:41 ` [PATCH v3 8/9] KVM: selftests: Add a CoCo-specific test for KVM_PRE_FAULT_MEMORY Pratik R. Sampat
2024-09-05 12:41 ` [PATCH v3 9/9] KVM: selftests: Interleave fallocate " Pratik R. Sampat
2024-10-14 22:23 ` [PATCH v3 0/9] SEV Kernel Selftests Sean Christopherson
2024-10-21 20:23   ` Pratik R. Sampat

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