From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: Nikita Kalyazin <kalyazin@amazon.com>
Cc: pbonzini@redhat.com, tglx@linutronix.de, mingo@redhat.com,
bp@alien8.de, dave.hansen@linux.intel.com, hpa@zytor.com,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH] KVM: x86: async_pf: check earlier if can deliver async pf
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2024 13:05:30 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Zz-gmpMvNm_292BC@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b6d32f47-9594-41b1-8024-a92cad07004e@amazon.com>
On Thu, Nov 21, 2024, Nikita Kalyazin wrote:
> On 19/11/2024 13:24, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> > None of this justifies breaking host-side, non-paravirt async page faults. If a
> > vCPU hits a missing page, KVM can schedule out the vCPU and let something else
> > run on the pCPU, or enter idle and let the SMT sibling get more cycles, or maybe
> > even enter a low enough sleep state to let other cores turbo a wee bit.
> >
> > I have no objection to disabling host async page faults, e.g. it's probably a net
> > negative for 1:1 vCPU:pCPU pinned setups, but such disabling needs an opt-in from
> > userspace.
>
> That's a good point, I didn't think about it. The async work would still
> need to execute somewhere in that case (or sleep in GUP until the page is
> available).
The "async work" is often an I/O operation, e.g. to pull in the page from disk,
or over the network from the source. The *CPU* doesn't need to actively do
anything for those operations. The I/O is initiated, so the CPU can do something
else, or go idle if there's no other work to be done.
> If processing the fault synchronously, the vCPU thread can also sleep in the
> same way freeing the pCPU for something else,
If and only if the vCPU can handle a PV async #PF. E.g. if the guest kernel flat
out doesn't support PV async #PF, or the fault happened while the guest was in an
incompatible mode, etc.
If KVM doesn't do async #PFs of any kind, the vCPU will spin on the fault until
the I/O completes and the page is ready.
> so the amount of work to be done looks equivalent (please correct me
> otherwise). What's the net gain of moving that to an async work in the host
> async fault case? "while allowing interrupt delivery into the guest." -- is
> this the main advantage?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-11-21 21:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-11-18 13:04 [PATCH] KVM: x86: async_pf: check earlier if can deliver async pf Nikita Kalyazin
2024-11-18 17:58 ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2024-11-21 18:10 ` Nikita Kalyazin
2024-11-22 9:33 ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2024-11-22 14:32 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-11-19 13:24 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-11-21 17:59 ` Nikita Kalyazin
2024-11-21 21:05 ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2024-11-25 15:50 ` Nikita Kalyazin
2024-11-26 0:06 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-11-26 15:35 ` Nikita Kalyazin
2024-11-26 22:10 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-11-27 10:35 ` Nikita Kalyazin
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