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From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: Ashish Kalra <ashish.kalra@amd.com>
Cc: "Pratik R. Sampat" <prsampat@amd.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, x86@kernel.org,
	 kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org,
	pbonzini@redhat.com,  thomas.lendacky@amd.com,
	tglx@linutronix.de, mingo@redhat.com, bp@alien8.de,
	 dave.hansen@linux.intel.com, shuah@kernel.org,
	pgonda@google.com,  nikunj@amd.com, pankaj.gupta@amd.com,
	michael.roth@amd.com, sraithal@amd.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 00/10] Basic SEV-SNP Selftests
Date: Mon, 5 May 2025 17:56:55 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aBleV3TlvA1QwcSZ@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <34890707-201a-44f9-afb3-b065ae71b246@amd.com>

On Mon, May 05, 2025, Ashish Kalra wrote:
> On 5/5/2025 6:15 PM, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> > @@ -3067,12 +3075,6 @@ void __init sev_hardware_setup(void)
> >  
> >         if (!sev_enabled)
> >                 return;
> > -
> > -       /*
> > -        * Do both SNP and SEV initialization at KVM module load.
> > -        */
> > -       init_args.probe = true;
> > -       sev_platform_init(&init_args);
> >  }
> >  
> >  void sev_hardware_unsetup(void)
> > --
> > 
> > Ashish, what am I missing?
> > 
> 
> As far as setting sev*_enabled is concerned, i believe they are more specific
> to SNP/SEV/SEV-ES being enabled in the system, which is separate from
> SEV_INIT/SNP_INIT (SNP_INIT success indicates that RMP been initialized, SNP
> has to be already enabled via MSR_SYSCFG before SNP_INIT is called), though
> SEV_INIT/SNP_INIT may fail but SEV/SNP support will still be enabled on the
> system.

No, if SNP_INIT fails and has zero chance of succeeding, then SNP is *NOT*
supported *by KVM*.  The platform may be configured to support SNP, but that
matters not at all if KVM can't actually use the functionality.

> Additionally as SEV_INIT/SNP_INIT during sev_platform_init() have failed, so
> any SEV/SEV-ES/SNP VM launch will fail as the firmware will return invalid
> platform state as INITs have failed.

Yeah, and that's *awful* behavior for KVM.  Imagine if KVM did that for every
feature, i.e. enumerated hardware support irrespective of KVM support.

The API is KVM_GET_SUPPORTED_CPUID, not KVM_GET_MOSTLY_SUPPORTED_CPUID.

> >From my understanding, sev*_enabled indicates the user support to
> >enable/disable support for SEV/SEV-ES/SEV-SNP, 

Yes, and they're also used to reflect and enumerate KVM support:

	if (sev_enabled) {
		kvm_cpu_cap_set(X86_FEATURE_SEV);
		kvm_caps.supported_vm_types |= BIT(KVM_X86_SEV_VM);
	}
	if (sev_es_enabled) {
		kvm_cpu_cap_set(X86_FEATURE_SEV_ES);
		kvm_caps.supported_vm_types |= BIT(KVM_X86_SEV_ES_VM);
	}
	if (sev_snp_enabled) {
		kvm_cpu_cap_set(X86_FEATURE_SEV_SNP);
		kvm_caps.supported_vm_types |= BIT(KVM_X86_SNP_VM);
	}

> as the sev*_enabled are the KVM module parameters, while sev*_supported
> indicates if platform has that support enabled.

sev*_supported are completely irrelevant.  They are function local scratch variables
that exist so that KVM doesn't clobber userspace's inputs while computing what is
fully supported and enabled.

> And before the SEV/SNP init support was moved to KVM from CCP module, doing
> SEV/SNP INIT could fail but that still had KVM detecting SEV/SNP support
> enabled, so this moving SEV/SNP init stuff to KVM module from CCP driver is
> consistent with the previous behavior.

And one of my driving motivations for getting the initialization into KVM was to
fix that previous behavior.

  reply	other threads:[~2025-05-06  0:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-03-05 22:59 [PATCH v8 00/10] Basic SEV-SNP Selftests Pratik R. Sampat
2025-03-05 22:59 ` [PATCH v8 01/10] KVM: SEV: Disable SEV-SNP support on initialization failure Pratik R. Sampat
2025-03-05 22:59 ` [PATCH v8 02/10] KVM: selftests: SEV-SNP test for KVM_SEV_INIT2 Pratik R. Sampat
2025-03-05 22:59 ` [PATCH v8 03/10] KVM: selftests: Add vmgexit helper Pratik R. Sampat
2025-03-06  4:38   ` Gupta, Pankaj
2025-03-05 22:59 ` [PATCH v8 04/10] KVM: selftests: Add SMT control state helper Pratik R. Sampat
2025-03-05 22:59 ` [PATCH v8 05/10] KVM: selftests: Replace assert() with TEST_ASSERT_EQ() Pratik R. Sampat
2025-03-05 22:59 ` [PATCH v8 06/10] KVM: selftests: Introduce SEV VM type check Pratik R. Sampat
2025-03-05 22:59 ` [PATCH v8 07/10] KVM: selftests: Add library support for interacting with SNP Pratik R. Sampat
2025-03-05 22:59 ` [PATCH v8 08/10] KVM: selftests: Force GUEST_MEMFD flag for SNP VM type Pratik R. Sampat
2025-03-05 22:59 ` [PATCH v8 09/10] KVM: selftests: Abstractions for SEV to decouple policy from type Pratik R. Sampat
2025-03-05 23:00 ` [PATCH v8 10/10] KVM: selftests: Add a basic SEV-SNP smoke test Pratik R. Sampat
2025-04-03 18:35 ` [PATCH v8 00/10] Basic SEV-SNP Selftests Pratik R. Sampat
2025-05-02 21:50 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-05-05 15:10   ` Pratik R. Sampat
2025-05-05 23:15     ` Sean Christopherson
2025-05-05 23:36       ` Kalra, Ashish
2025-05-06  0:56         ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2025-05-06 17:06           ` Kalra, Ashish
2025-05-06  2:05       ` Pratik R. Sampat
2025-05-06 13:46         ` Sean Christopherson

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