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From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: Ackerley Tng <ackerleytng@google.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v16 14/22] KVM: x86/mmu: Enforce guest_memfd's max order when recovering hugepages
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2025 07:31:17 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aIOVNcp7p2hU-YHM@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <diqz7bzxduyv.fsf@ackerleytng-ctop.c.googlers.com>

On Thu, Jul 24, 2025, Ackerley Tng wrote:
> Ackerley Tng <ackerleytng@google.com> writes:
> 
> > Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com> writes:
> >> diff --git a/arch/x86/kvm/mmu/mmu.c b/arch/x86/kvm/mmu/mmu.c
> >> index 20dd9f64156e..c4ff8b4028df 100644
> >> --- a/arch/x86/kvm/mmu/mmu.c
> >> +++ b/arch/x86/kvm/mmu/mmu.c
> >> @@ -3302,31 +3302,63 @@ static u8 kvm_max_level_for_order(int order)
> >>  	return PG_LEVEL_4K;
> >>  }
> >>  
> >> -static u8 kvm_max_private_mapping_level(struct kvm *kvm, kvm_pfn_t pfn,
> >> -					u8 max_level, int gmem_order)
> >> +static u8 kvm_max_private_mapping_level(struct kvm *kvm, struct kvm_page_fault *fault,
> >> +					const struct kvm_memory_slot *slot, gfn_t gfn)
> >
> > Would you consider renaming this kvm_max_gmem_mapping_level()? Or
> > something that doesn't limit the use of this function to private memory?

Heh, see the next patch, which does exactly that and is appropriately titled
"KVM: x86/mmu: Extend guest_memfd's max mapping level to shared mappings".

> >> -	u8 req_max_level;
> >> +	u8 max_level, coco_level;
> >> +	struct page *page;
> >> +	kvm_pfn_t pfn;
> >>  
> >> -	if (max_level == PG_LEVEL_4K)
> >> -		return PG_LEVEL_4K;
> >> +	/* For faults, use the gmem information that was resolved earlier. */
> >> +	if (fault) {
> >> +		pfn = fault->pfn;
> >> +		max_level = fault->max_level;
> >> +	} else {
> >> +		/* TODO: Constify the guest_memfd chain. */
> >> +		struct kvm_memory_slot *__slot = (struct kvm_memory_slot *)slot;
> >> +		int max_order, r;
> >> +
> >> +		r = kvm_gmem_get_pfn(kvm, __slot, gfn, &pfn, &page, &max_order);
> >> +		if (r)
> >> +			return PG_LEVEL_4K;
> >> +
> >> +		if (page)
> >> +			put_page(page);
> >
> > When I was working on this, I added a kvm_gmem_mapping_order() [1] where
> > guest_memfd could return the order that this gfn would be allocated at
> > without actually doing the allocation. Is it okay that an
> > allocation may be performed here?

No, it's not.  From a guest_memfd semantics perspective, it'd be ok.  But allocating
can block, and mmu_lock is held here.

I routed this through kvm_gmem_get_pfn(), because for this code to do the right
thing, KVM needs to the PFN.  That could be plumbed in from the existing SPTE, but
I don't love the idea of potentially mixing the gmem order for pfn X with pfn Y
from the SPTE, e.g. if the gmem backing has changed and an invalidation  is pending.

KVM kinda sorta has such races with non-gmem memory, but for non-gmem KVM will never
fully consume a "bad" PFN, whereas for this path, KVM could (at least in theory)
immediately consume the pfn via an RMP lookup.  Which is probably fine?  but I
don't love it.

I assume getting the order will basically get the page/pfn as well, so plumbing
in the pfn from the SPTE, *knowing* that it could be stale, feels all kinds of
wrong.

I also don't want to effectively speculatively add kvm_gmem_mapping_order() or
expand kvm_gmem_get_pfn(), e.g. to say "no create", so what if we just do this?

	/* For faults, use the gmem information that was resolved earlier. */
	if (fault) {
		pfn = fault->pfn;
		max_level = fault->max_level;
	} else {
		/* TODO: Call into guest_memfd once hugepages are supported. */
		pfn = KVM_PFN_ERR_FAULT;
		max_level = PG_LEVEL_4K;
	}

	if (max_level == PG_LEVEL_4K)
		return max_level;

or alternatively:

	/* For faults, use the gmem information that was resolved earlier. */
	if (fault) {
		pfn = fault->pfn;
		max_level = fault->max_level;
	} else {
		/* TODO: Call into guest_memfd once hugepages are supported. */
		return PG_LEVEL_4K;
	}

	if (max_level == PG_LEVEL_4K)
		return max_level;

Functionally, it's 100% safe, even if/when guest_memfd supports hugepages.  E.g.
if we fail/forget to update this code, the worst case scneario is that KVM will
neglect to recover hugepages.

While it's kinda weird/silly, I'm leaning toward the first option of setting
max_level and relying on the common "max_level == PG_LEVEL_4K" check to avoid
doing an RMP looking with KVM_PFN_ERR_FAULT.  I like that it helps visually
captures that KVM needs to get both the max_level *and* the pfn from guest_memfd.

> > [1] https://lore.kernel.org/all/20250717162731.446579-13-tabba@google.com/
> >
> >> +
> >> +		max_level = kvm_max_level_for_order(max_order);
> >> +	}
> >>  
> >> -	max_level = min(kvm_max_level_for_order(gmem_order), max_level);
> >>  	if (max_level == PG_LEVEL_4K)
> >> -		return PG_LEVEL_4K;
> >> +		return max_level;
> >
> > I think the above line is a git-introduced issue, there probably
> > shouldn't be a return here.
> >
> 
> My bad, this is a correct short-circuiting of the rest of the function
> since there's no smaller PG_LEVEL than PG_LEVEL_4K.

Off topic: please trim your replies.

  reply	other threads:[~2025-07-25 14:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-07-23 10:46 [PATCH v16 00/22] KVM: Enable host userspace mapping for guest_memfd-backed memory for non-CoCo VMs Fuad Tabba
2025-07-23 10:46 ` [PATCH v16 01/22] KVM: Rename CONFIG_KVM_PRIVATE_MEM to CONFIG_KVM_GUEST_MEMFD Fuad Tabba
2025-07-23 10:46 ` [PATCH v16 02/22] KVM: x86: Have all vendor neutral sub-configs depend on KVM_X86, not just KVM Fuad Tabba
2025-07-23 13:06   ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-07-23 13:13   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-23 10:46 ` [PATCH v16 03/22] KVM: x86: Select KVM_GENERIC_PRIVATE_MEM directly from KVM_SW_PROTECTED_VM Fuad Tabba
2025-07-23 13:13   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-23 13:17   ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-07-23 10:46 ` [PATCH v16 04/22] KVM: x86: Select TDX's KVM_GENERIC_xxx dependencies iff CONFIG_KVM_INTEL_TDX=y Fuad Tabba
2025-07-23 13:14   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-23 13:22   ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-07-24 22:35     ` Sean Christopherson
2025-07-23 10:46 ` [PATCH v16 05/22] KVM: Rename CONFIG_KVM_GENERIC_PRIVATE_MEM to CONFIG_HAVE_KVM_ARCH_GMEM_POPULATE Fuad Tabba
2025-07-23 13:27   ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-07-24 22:41     ` Sean Christopherson
2025-07-25 15:13       ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-07-23 10:46 ` [PATCH v16 06/22] KVM: Rename kvm_slot_can_be_private() to kvm_slot_has_gmem() Fuad Tabba
2025-07-23 10:46 ` [PATCH v16 07/22] KVM: Fix comments that refer to slots_lock Fuad Tabba
2025-07-23 10:47 ` [PATCH v16 08/22] KVM: Fix comment that refers to kvm uapi header path Fuad Tabba
2025-07-23 10:47 ` [PATCH v16 09/22] KVM: x86: Enable KVM_GUEST_MEMFD for all 64-bit builds Fuad Tabba
2025-07-23 13:17   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-23 13:42   ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-07-23 10:47 ` [PATCH v16 10/22] KVM: guest_memfd: Add plumbing to host to map guest_memfd pages Fuad Tabba
2025-07-23 14:03   ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-07-24 22:33     ` Sean Christopherson
2025-07-23 10:47 ` [PATCH v16 11/22] KVM: guest_memfd: Track guest_memfd mmap support in memslot Fuad Tabba
2025-07-23 10:47 ` [PATCH v16 12/22] KVM: x86/mmu: Rename .private_max_mapping_level() to .gmem_max_mapping_level() Fuad Tabba
2025-07-23 10:47 ` [PATCH v16 13/22] KVM: x86/mmu: Hoist guest_memfd max level/order helpers "up" in mmu.c Fuad Tabba
2025-07-23 13:51   ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-07-24 23:03   ` Ackerley Tng
2025-07-24 23:04   ` Ackerley Tng
2025-07-23 10:47 ` [PATCH v16 14/22] KVM: x86/mmu: Enforce guest_memfd's max order when recovering hugepages Fuad Tabba
2025-07-23 13:55   ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-07-24 22:32     ` Sean Christopherson
2025-07-24 23:21       ` Ackerley Tng
2025-07-24 23:34         ` Ackerley Tng
2025-07-25 14:31           ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2025-07-25 17:24             ` Sean Christopherson
2025-07-25 19:16               ` Ackerley Tng
2025-07-23 10:47 ` [PATCH v16 15/22] KVM: x86/mmu: Extend guest_memfd's max mapping level to shared mappings Fuad Tabba
2025-07-24 23:31   ` Ackerley Tng
2025-07-25 13:53     ` Sean Christopherson
2025-07-25 16:40       ` Ackerley Tng
2025-07-25 17:13         ` Sean Christopherson
2025-07-25 19:34           ` Ackerley Tng
2025-07-25 19:52             ` Sean Christopherson
2025-07-25 21:31               ` Ackerley Tng
2025-07-25 22:01                 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-07-25 22:25                   ` Ackerley Tng
2025-07-23 10:47 ` [PATCH v16 16/22] KVM: arm64: Refactor user_mem_abort() Fuad Tabba
2025-07-23 10:47 ` [PATCH v16 17/22] KVM: arm64: Handle guest_memfd-backed guest page faults Fuad Tabba
2025-07-23 10:47 ` [PATCH v16 18/22] KVM: arm64: nv: Handle VNCR_EL2-triggered faults backed by guest_memfd Fuad Tabba
2025-07-23 10:47 ` [PATCH v16 19/22] KVM: arm64: Enable support for guest_memfd backed memory Fuad Tabba
2025-07-23 10:47 ` [PATCH v16 20/22] KVM: Allow and advertise support for host mmap() on guest_memfd files Fuad Tabba
2025-07-23 10:47 ` [PATCH v16 21/22] KVM: selftests: Do not use hardcoded page sizes in guest_memfd test Fuad Tabba
2025-07-23 10:47 ` [PATCH v16 22/22] KVM: selftests: guest_memfd mmap() test when mmap is supported Fuad Tabba
2025-07-24 22:15   ` Sean Christopherson
2025-07-28  7:00     ` Fuad Tabba
2025-07-24 22:44 ` [PATCH v16 00/22] KVM: Enable host userspace mapping for guest_memfd-backed memory for non-CoCo VMs Sean Christopherson
2025-07-24 23:46 ` Ackerley Tng
2025-07-25 14:56   ` Sean Christopherson
2025-07-28  7:05     ` Fuad Tabba

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