public inbox for kvm@vger.kernel.org
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: Lei Chen <lei.chen@smartx.com>
Cc: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	 Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	 Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	x86@kernel.org,  "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 0/3] kvm:x86: simplify kvmclock update logic
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2025 16:59:42 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aO7j7lcqmL-n599m@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250819152027.1687487-1-lei.chen@smartx.com>

On Tue, Aug 19, 2025, Lei Chen wrote:
> This patch series simplifies kvmclock updating logic by reverting
> related commits.
> 
> Now we have three requests about time updating:
> 
> 1. KVM_REQ_CLOCK_UPDATE:
> The function kvm_guest_time_update gathers info from  master clock
> or host.rdtsc() and update vcpu->arch.hvclock, and then kvmclock or hyperv
> reference counter.
> 
> 2. KVM_REQ_MASTERCLOCK_UPDATE: 
> The function kvm_update_masterclock updates kvm->arch from
> pvclock_gtod_data(a global var updated by timekeeping subsystem), and
> then make KVM_REQ_CLOCK_UPDATE request for each vcpu.
> 
> 3. KVM_REQ_GLOBAL_CLOCK_UPDATE:
> The function kvm_gen_kvmclock_update makes KVM_REQ_CLOCK_UPDATE
> request for each vcpu.
> 
> In the early implementation, functions mentioned above were
> synchronous. But things got complicated since the following commits.
> 
> 1. Commit 7e44e4495a39 ("x86: kvm: rate-limit global clock updates")
> intends to use kvmclock_update_work to sync ntp corretion
> across all vcpus kvmclock, which is based on commit 0061d53daf26f
> ("KVM: x86: limit difference between kvmclock updates")
> 
> 
> 2. Commit 332967a3eac0 ("x86: kvm: introduce periodic global clock
> updates") introduced a 300s-interval work to periodically sync
> ntp corrections across all vcpus.
> 
> I think those commits could be reverted because:
> 1. Since commit 53fafdbb8b21 ("KVM: x86: switch KVMCLOCK base to
> monotonic raw clock"), kvmclock switched to mono raw clock,
> Those two commits could be reverted.
> 
> 2. the periodic work introduced from commit 332967a3eac0 ("x86:
> kvm: introduce periodic global clock updates") always does 
> nothing for normal scenarios. If some exceptions happen,
> the corresponding logic makes right CLOCK_UPDATE request for right vcpus.
> The following shows what exceptions might happen and how they are
> handled.
> (1). cpu_tsc_khz changed
>    __kvmclock_cpufreq_notifier makes KVM_REQ_CLOCK_UPDATE request
> (2). use/unuse master clock 
>    kvm_track_tsc_matching makes KVM_REQ_MASTERCLOCK_UPDATE, which means
>    KVM_REQ_CLOCK_UPDATE for each vcpu.
> (3). guest writes MSR_IA32_TSC
>    kvm_synchronize_tsc will handle it and finally call
>    kvm_track_tsc_matching to make everything well.
> (4). enable/disable tsc_catchup
>    kvm_arch_vcpu_load and bottom half of vcpu_enter_guest makes
>    KVM_REQ_CLOCK_UPDATE request
> 
> Really happy for your comments, thanks.
> 
> Related links:
> https://lkml.indiana.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/2310.0/04217.html
> https://patchew.org/linux/20240522001817.619072-1-dwmw2@infradead.org/20240522001817.619072-20-dwmw2@infradead.org/

I would love, love, *love* to kill of this code, and the justification looks sane
to me, but I am genuinely not knowledgeable enough in this area to judge whether
or not this is correct/desirable going forward.

Paolo?

  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-10-14 23:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-19 15:20 [PATCH v1 0/3] kvm:x86: simplify kvmclock update logic Lei Chen
2025-08-19 15:20 ` [PATCH v1 1/3] Revert "x86: kvm: introduce periodic global clock updates" Lei Chen
2025-08-19 15:20 ` [PATCH v1 2/3] Revert "x86: kvm: rate-limit " Lei Chen
2025-08-19 15:20 ` [PATCH v1 3/3] KVM: x86: remove comment about ntp correction sync for Lei Chen
2025-10-14 23:59 ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2025-11-04 16:35   ` [PATCH v1 0/3] kvm:x86: simplify kvmclock update logic Paolo Bonzini
2025-11-18 23:27 ` Sean Christopherson

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=aO7j7lcqmL-n599m@google.com \
    --to=seanjc@google.com \
    --cc=bp@alien8.de \
    --cc=dave.hansen@linux.intel.com \
    --cc=hpa@zytor.com \
    --cc=kvm@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=lei.chen@smartx.com \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=mingo@redhat.com \
    --cc=pbonzini@redhat.com \
    --cc=tglx@linutronix.de \
    --cc=x86@kernel.org \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox