From: Lukas Wunner <lukas@wunner.de>
To: Farhan Ali <alifm@linux.ibm.com>
Cc: Benjamin Block <bblock@linux.ibm.com>,
linux-s390@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-pci@vger.kernel.org,
alex.williamson@redhat.com, helgaas@kernel.org, clg@redhat.com,
schnelle@linux.ibm.com, mjrosato@linux.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 01/10] PCI: Avoid saving error values for config space
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2025 20:14:42 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aOaqEhLOzWzswx8O@wunner.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <21ef5524-738a-43d5-bc9a-87f907a8aa70@linux.ibm.com>
On Wed, Oct 08, 2025 at 10:56:35AM -0700, Farhan Ali wrote:
> On 10/8/2025 6:34 AM, Lukas Wunner wrote:
> > I'm not sure yet. Let's back up a little: I'm missing an
> > architectural description how you're intending to do error
> > recovery in the VM. If I understand correctly, you're
> > informing the VM of the error via the ->error_detected() callback.
> >
> > You're saying you need to check for accessibility of the device
> > prior to resetting it from the VM, does that mean you're attempting
> > a reset from the ->error_detected() callback?
> >
> > According to Documentation/PCI/pci-error-recovery.rst, the device
> > isn't supposed to be considered accessible in ->error_detected().
> > The first callback which allows access is ->mmio_enabled().
> >
>
> The ->error_detected() callback is used to inform userspace of an error. In
> the case of a VM, using QEMU as a userspace, once notified of an error QEMU
> will inject an error into the guest in s390x architecture specific way [1]
> (probably should have linked the QEMU series in the cover letter). Once
> notified of the error VM's device driver will drive the recovery action. The
> recovery action require a reset of the device and on s390x PCI devices are
> reset using architecture specific instructions (zpci_device_hot_reset()).
According to Documentation/PCI/pci-error-recovery.rst:
"STEP 1: Notification
--------------------
Platform calls the error_detected() callback on every instance of
every driver affected by the error.
At this point, the device might not be accessible anymore, [...]
it gives the driver a chance to cleanup, waiting for pending stuff
(timers, whatever, etc...) to complete; it can take semaphores,
schedule, etc... everything but touch the device."
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
And yet you're touching the device by trying to reset it.
The code you're introducing in patch [01/10] only becomes necessary
because you're not following the above-quoted protocol. If you
follow the protocol, patch [01/10] becomes unnecessary.
> > I also don't quite understand why the VM needs to perform a reset.
> > Why can't you just let the VM tell the host that a reset is needed
> > (PCI_ERS_RESULT_NEED_RESET) and then the host resets the device on
> > behalf of the VM?
Could you answer this question please?
Thanks,
Lukas
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-10-08 18:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-09-24 17:16 [PATCH v4 00/10] Error recovery for vfio-pci devices on s390x Farhan Ali
2025-09-24 17:16 ` [PATCH v4 01/10] PCI: Avoid saving error values for config space Farhan Ali
2025-10-01 15:15 ` Benjamin Block
2025-10-01 17:12 ` Farhan Ali
2025-10-02 9:16 ` Benjamin Block
2025-10-04 14:54 ` Lukas Wunner
2025-10-06 17:54 ` Farhan Ali
2025-10-06 19:26 ` Lukas Wunner
2025-10-06 21:35 ` Farhan Ali
2025-10-08 13:34 ` Lukas Wunner
2025-10-08 17:56 ` Farhan Ali
2025-10-08 18:14 ` Lukas Wunner [this message]
2025-10-08 21:55 ` Farhan Ali
2025-10-09 4:52 ` Lukas Wunner
2025-10-09 17:02 ` Farhan Ali
2025-10-12 6:43 ` Lukas Wunner
2025-10-09 9:12 ` Niklas Schnelle
2025-10-12 6:34 ` Lukas Wunner
2025-10-14 12:07 ` Niklas Schnelle
2025-10-16 21:00 ` Farhan Ali
2025-10-19 14:34 ` Lukas Wunner
2025-10-20 8:59 ` Niklas Schnelle
2025-11-22 10:58 ` Lukas Wunner
2025-09-24 17:16 ` [PATCH v4 02/10] PCI: Add additional checks for flr reset Farhan Ali
2025-09-30 10:03 ` Benjamin Block
2025-09-30 17:04 ` Farhan Ali
2025-10-01 8:33 ` Benjamin Block
2025-10-01 14:37 ` Benjamin Block
2025-09-24 17:16 ` [PATCH v4 03/10] PCI: Allow per function PCI slots Farhan Ali
2025-10-01 14:34 ` Benjamin Block
2025-09-24 17:16 ` [PATCH v4 04/10] s390/pci: Add architecture specific resource/bus address translation Farhan Ali
2025-09-25 10:54 ` Niklas Schnelle
2025-10-01 16:04 ` Benjamin Block
2025-10-01 18:01 ` Farhan Ali
2025-10-02 12:58 ` Niklas Schnelle
2025-10-02 17:00 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-10-02 17:16 ` Ilpo Järvinen
2025-10-02 18:14 ` Niklas Schnelle
2025-09-24 17:16 ` [PATCH v4 05/10] s390/pci: Restore IRQ unconditionally for the zPCI device Farhan Ali
2025-09-24 17:16 ` [PATCH v4 06/10] s390/pci: Update the logic for detecting passthrough device Farhan Ali
2025-09-24 17:16 ` [PATCH v4 07/10] s390/pci: Store PCI error information for passthrough devices Farhan Ali
2025-09-25 14:28 ` Niklas Schnelle
2025-09-25 16:29 ` Farhan Ali
2025-09-24 17:16 ` [PATCH v4 08/10] vfio-pci/zdev: Add a device feature for error information Farhan Ali
2025-09-25 8:04 ` kernel test robot
2025-09-24 17:16 ` [PATCH v4 09/10] vfio: Add a reset_done callback for vfio-pci driver Farhan Ali
2025-09-24 17:16 ` [PATCH v4 10/10] vfio: Remove the pcie check for VFIO_PCI_ERR_IRQ_INDEX Farhan Ali
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