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From: Alex Mastro <amastro@fb.com>
To: Alex Williamson <alex@shazbot.org>
Cc: David Matlack <dmatlack@google.com>,
	Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
	Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>, <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] vfio: selftests: Skip vfio_dma_map_limit_test if mapping returns -EINVAL
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2025 08:48:46 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aRIXboz5X4KKq/8R@devgpu015.cco6.facebook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20251110081709.53b70993.alex@shazbot.org>

On Mon, Nov 10, 2025 at 08:17:09AM -0700, Alex Williamson wrote:
> On Sat, 8 Nov 2025 17:20:10 -0800
> Alex Mastro <amastro@fb.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Sat, Nov 08, 2025 at 02:37:10PM -0700, Alex Williamson wrote:
> > > On Sat, 8 Nov 2025 12:19:48 -0800
> > > Alex Mastro <amastro@fb.com> wrote:  
> > > > Here's my attempt at adding some machinery to query iova ranges, with
> > > > normalization to iommufd's struct. I kept the vfio capability chain stuff
> > > > relatively generic so we can use it for other things in the future if needed.  
> > > 
> > > Seems we were both hacking on this, I hadn't seen you posted this
> > > before sending:
> > > 
> > > https://lore.kernel.org/kvm/20251108212954.26477-1-alex@shazbot.org/T/#u
> > > 
> > > Maybe we can combine the best merits of each.  Thanks,  
> > 
> > Yes! I have been thinking along the following lines
> > - Your idea to change the end of address space test to allocate at the end of
> >   the supported range is better and more general than my idea of skipping the
> >   test if ~(iova_t)0 is out of bounds. We should do that.
> > - Introducing the concept iova allocator makes sense.
> > - I think it's worthwhile to keep common test concepts like vfio_pci_device
> >   less opinionated/stateful so as not to close the door on certain categories of
> >   testing in the future. For example, if we ever wanted to test IOVA range
> >   contraction after binding additional devices to an IOAS or vfio container.
> 
> Yes, fetching the IOVA ranges should really occur after all the devices
> are attached to the container/ioas rather than in device init.  We need
> another layer of abstraction for the shared IOMMU state.  We can
> probably work on that incrementally.
> 
> I certainly like the idea of testing range contraction, but I don't
> know where we can reliably see that behavior.

I'm not sure about the exact testing strategy for that yet either actually.

> > - What do you think about making the concept of an IOVA allocator something
> >   standalone for which tests that need it can create one? I think it would
> >   compose pretty cleanly on top of my vfio_pci_iova_ranges().
> 
> Yep, that sounds good.  Obviously what's there is just the simplest
> possible linear, aligned allocator with no attempt to fill gaps or
> track allocations for freeing.  We're not likely to exhaust the address
> space in an individual unit test, I just wanted to relieve the test
> from the burden of coming up with a valid IOVA, while leaving some
> degree of geometry info for exploring the boundaries.

Keeping the simple linear allocator makes sense to me.

> Are you interested in generating a combined v2?

Sure -- I can put up a v2 series which stages like so
- adds stateless low level iova ranges queries
- adds iova allocator utility object
- fixes end of ranges tests, uses iova allocator instead of iova=vaddr 

> TBH I'm not sure that just marking a test as skipped based on the DMA
> mapping return is worthwhile with a couple proposals to add IOVA range
> support already on the table.  Thanks,

I'll put up the new series rooted on linux-vfio/next soon.

  reply	other threads:[~2025-11-10 16:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-11-07 22:20 [PATCH] vfio: selftests: Skip vfio_dma_map_limit_test if mapping returns -EINVAL David Matlack
2025-11-08  0:17 ` Alex Mastro
2025-11-08 20:19   ` Alex Mastro
2025-11-08 21:37     ` Alex Williamson
2025-11-09  1:20       ` Alex Mastro
2025-11-10 15:17         ` Alex Williamson
2025-11-10 16:48           ` Alex Mastro [this message]
2025-11-10 18:00             ` David Matlack
2025-11-10 18:37               ` Alex Williamson
2025-11-10 19:45                 ` David Matlack
2025-11-10 23:10                   ` David Matlack

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