From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from us-smtp-delivery-124.mimecast.com (us-smtp-delivery-124.mimecast.com [170.10.129.124]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0BA7E47A0B7 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 2026 10:57:55 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=170.10.129.124 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1769079477; cv=none; b=YXGm8woOGLEGtjl96IAT5/GMpf3x+lU/xTX4VVrxV5TUjTbzgQ0Ptc9532cV/+EphscW9fib38OIa31l5eFwx0EloahKA5ERt6kflhSM0cDHDR9oCl2nORz4jM5HTbGShqyIZsyoI66OT6/AK+J29L6d7Uw0slJulqpIdTNe79s= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1769079477; c=relaxed/simple; bh=813o5iMopOEtNaEpB59IZtNhO7ZNcTT6/OmpOcsmgGo=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:References:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To; b=RHwMBvUFcYfRGrRvJTyUQLZnL5ttKZ2IJdo9TaErcIvCJw0M6NM1/5pJcnf0iiELBxZVlBFiNOtgsSegAxCW+XRzKMadnHAsTRE98L/94DypeXKwyujt65vzutVCC2u4M2x02DD+qPfM8Za+osYcaTQUzmKV21bFAl4HGeW88HY= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=quarantine dis=none) header.from=redhat.com; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=redhat.com; dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=redhat.com header.i=@redhat.com header.b=efaGM05f; arc=none smtp.client-ip=170.10.129.124 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=quarantine dis=none) header.from=redhat.com Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=redhat.com Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=redhat.com header.i=@redhat.com header.b="efaGM05f" DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=redhat.com; s=mimecast20190719; t=1769079474; h=from:from:reply-to:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=5AWd6Ks68WcCoWiQAm6oRSoepycHrJdwqtHk4KxfmA4=; b=efaGM05flplUvg3OvOd/o/w/lTEWm/zGUJJyM3TEI8fdtM08iZrH/7U0znY65AiO+F2+m6 3y5Fmk5PvBl2Cgm514Lf1qNp3s7xOuUkvobbHpy4bYNXUA5E2nXPQfjMPSBHgYBYb9bE1J fznW5ZFSy1NWiiXu8tu4NKcHPKZ4vWw= Received: from mx-prod-mc-01.mail-002.prod.us-west-2.aws.redhat.com (ec2-54-186-198-63.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com [54.186.198.63]) by relay.mimecast.com with ESMTP with STARTTLS (version=TLSv1.3, cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) id us-mta-237-84D-omXsP5irRXV7E4GuBA-1; Thu, 22 Jan 2026 05:57:51 -0500 X-MC-Unique: 84D-omXsP5irRXV7E4GuBA-1 X-Mimecast-MFC-AGG-ID: 84D-omXsP5irRXV7E4GuBA_1769079469 Received: from mx-prod-int-03.mail-002.prod.us-west-2.aws.redhat.com (mx-prod-int-03.mail-002.prod.us-west-2.aws.redhat.com [10.30.177.12]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by mx-prod-mc-01.mail-002.prod.us-west-2.aws.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2B1061944F11; Thu, 22 Jan 2026 10:57:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from redhat.com (unknown [10.42.28.63]) by mx-prod-int-03.mail-002.prod.us-west-2.aws.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D29771958DC0; Thu, 22 Jan 2026 10:57:43 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2026 10:57:40 +0000 From: Daniel =?utf-8?B?UC4gQmVycmFuZ8Op?= To: Peter Maydell Cc: =?utf-8?Q?Marc-Andr=C3=A9?= Lureau , Stefan Hajnoczi , Thomas Huth , qemu-devel , kvm , Helge Deller , Oliver Steffen , Stefano Garzarella , Matias Ezequiel Vara Larsen , Kevin Wolf , German Maglione , Hanna Reitz , Paolo Bonzini , Philippe =?utf-8?Q?Mathieu-Daud=C3=A9?= , Mark Cave-Ayland , Alex Bennee , Pierrick Bouvier , John Levon , Thanos Makatos , =?utf-8?Q?C=C3=A9dric?= Le Goater Subject: Re: Call for GSoC internship project ideas Message-ID: Reply-To: Daniel =?utf-8?B?UC4gQmVycmFuZ8Op?= References: Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: kvm@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/2.2.14 (2025-02-20) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 3.0 on 10.30.177.12 On Thu, Jan 22, 2026 at 10:54:42AM +0000, Peter Maydell wrote: > On Thu, 22 Jan 2026 at 10:40, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > > Once we have written some scripts that can build gcc, binutils, linux, > > busybox we've opened the door to be able to support every machine type > > on every target, provided there has been a gcc/binutils/linux port at > > some time (which covers practically everything). Adding new machines > > becomes cheap then - just a matter of identifying the Linux Kconfig > > settings, and everything else stays the same. Adding new targets means > > adding a new binutils build target, which should again we relatively > > cheap, and also infrequent. This has potential to be massively more > > sustainable than a reliance on distros, and should put us on a pathway > > that would let us cover almost everything we ship. > > Isn't that essentially reimplementing half of buildroot, or the > system image builder that Rob Landley uses to produce toybox > test images ? If we can use existing tools to achieve this, that's fine. 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