From: Shivansh Dhiman <shivansh.dhiman@amd.com>
To: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
Cc: Nikunj A Dadhania <nikunj@amd.com>, <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
<tglx@linutronix.de>, <mingo@redhat.com>, <bp@alien8.de>,
<dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>, <x86@kernel.org>, <hpa@zytor.com>,
<xin@zytor.com>, <nikunj.dadhania@amd.com>,
<santosh.shukla@amd.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 7/7] KVM: SVM: Enable save/restore of FRED MSRs
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2026 12:00:33 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aa5d780a-a367-46ff-bed6-3b2ebdda9c9c@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aohSiFQbfqpKoBX9@google.com>
On 21-08-26 18:58, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 19, 2026, Shivansh Dhiman wrote:
>> On 13-08-26 04:57, Sean Christopherson wrote:
>>>> Would you prefer it handled in svm_recalc_fred_msr_intercepts() instead
>>>> while setting intercepts? Or is there a better way to deal with this?
>>>
>>> Take a hard dependency on an upcoming APM update that states the control area
>>> is valid after shutdown, and rework KVM to not clobber control fields on shutdown
>>> interception.
>>
>> Sure, Sean. I'm thinking something like the diff below. It contains three
>> parts:
>>
>> 1. Clear the save area and offsets 60h, 61h, and 68h of the control area,
>> as per the APM.
>>
>> 2. Zero the intercepts as well. The APM doesn't require it, but it seemed
>> worthwhile so that the new intercepts are computed on a clean slate
>> rather than on top of whatever survived the triple fault. Is that worth
>> doing?
>
> My gut reaction is I don't see how this can possibly be safe or correct. How
> does the guest taking a series of faults have anything to do with what accesses
> KVM needs to intercept?
Fair point, there's no connection. init_vmcb() sets the intercepts it wants
and the recalc on reset covers the rest, so zeroing them buys nothing. I'll
drop it.
>
>> 3. For nested, same fields are copied to vmcb12 when a shutdown is intercepted
>> in L2. Clear them while copying so L1 gets a deterministic value
>> rather than whatever the hardware left behind. Does that seem like right
>> thing to do?
>
> No, because that violates the rule of "don't make stuff up". It could also be
> actively detrimental to L1's ability to debug issues (e.g. if hardware leaves
> breadcrumbs in the save area), and risks creating guest<=>host ABI that we don't
> want to support.
Understood, I'll leave vmcb12 alone.
That leaves just the save area and the control fields the APM says are
undefined after a shutdown. I'll post that as a separate patch.
Thanks,
Shivansh
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-08-24 6:30 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-01-29 6:36 [PATCH 0/7] KVM: SVM: Enable FRED support Shivansh Dhiman
2026-01-29 6:36 ` [PATCH 1/7] KVM: SVM: Initialize FRED VMCB fields Shivansh Dhiman
2026-03-07 1:58 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-03-09 17:46 ` Shivansh Dhiman
2026-03-09 18:57 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-03-11 4:18 ` Shivansh Dhiman
2026-03-27 6:41 ` Shivansh Dhiman
2026-01-29 6:36 ` [PATCH 2/7] KVM: SVM: Disable interception of FRED MSRs for FRED supported guests Shivansh Dhiman
2026-03-07 2:10 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-03-09 17:47 ` Shivansh Dhiman
2026-01-29 6:36 ` [PATCH 3/7] KVM: SVM: Save restore FRED_RSP0 " Shivansh Dhiman
2026-03-05 20:37 ` Shivansh Dhiman
2026-01-29 6:36 ` [PATCH 4/7] KVM: SVM: Populate FRED event data on event injection Shivansh Dhiman
2026-03-06 11:31 ` Paolo Bonzini
2026-03-09 19:47 ` Shivansh Dhiman
2026-01-29 6:36 ` [PATCH 5/7] KVM: SVM: Support FRED nested exception injection Shivansh Dhiman
2026-03-07 2:07 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-03-10 15:56 ` Shivansh Dhiman
2026-03-10 16:20 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-03-11 4:12 ` Shivansh Dhiman
2026-01-29 6:36 ` [PATCH 6/7] KVM: SVM: Dump FRED context in dump_vmcb() Shivansh Dhiman
2026-03-07 2:03 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-03-09 19:57 ` Shivansh Dhiman
2026-01-29 6:36 ` [PATCH 7/7] KVM: SVM: Enable save/restore of FRED MSRs Shivansh Dhiman
2026-03-07 2:14 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-03-09 18:20 ` Shivansh Dhiman
2026-08-10 8:39 ` Shivansh Dhiman
2026-08-12 23:27 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-08-13 8:19 ` Nikunj A. Dadhania
2026-08-13 23:47 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-08-14 3:07 ` Nikunj A. Dadhania
2026-08-14 16:57 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-08-19 12:08 ` Shivansh Dhiman
2026-08-21 13:28 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-08-24 6:30 ` Shivansh Dhiman [this message]
2026-02-06 9:22 ` [PATCH 0/7] KVM: SVM: Enable FRED support Shivansh Dhiman
2026-02-11 0:53 ` Andrew Cooper
2026-03-06 9:33 ` Shivansh Dhiman
2026-03-03 17:58 ` Shivansh Dhiman
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