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From: Shivansh Dhiman <shivansh.dhiman@amd.com>
To: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
Cc: Nikunj A Dadhania <nikunj@amd.com>, <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	<tglx@linutronix.de>, <mingo@redhat.com>, <bp@alien8.de>,
	<dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>, <x86@kernel.org>, <hpa@zytor.com>,
	<xin@zytor.com>, <nikunj.dadhania@amd.com>,
	<santosh.shukla@amd.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 7/7] KVM: SVM: Enable save/restore of FRED MSRs
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2026 12:00:33 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aa5d780a-a367-46ff-bed6-3b2ebdda9c9c@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aohSiFQbfqpKoBX9@google.com>

On 21-08-26 18:58, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 19, 2026, Shivansh Dhiman wrote:
>> On 13-08-26 04:57, Sean Christopherson wrote:
>>>> Would you prefer it handled in svm_recalc_fred_msr_intercepts() instead
>>>> while setting intercepts? Or is there a better way to deal with this?
>>>
>>> Take a hard dependency on an upcoming APM update that states the control area
>>> is valid after shutdown, and rework KVM to not clobber control fields on shutdown
>>> interception.
>>
>> Sure, Sean. I'm thinking something like the diff below. It contains three
>> parts:
>>
>> 1. Clear the save area and offsets 60h, 61h, and 68h of the control area,
>>    as per the APM.
>>
>> 2. Zero the intercepts as well. The APM doesn't require it, but it seemed
>>    worthwhile so that the new intercepts are computed on a clean slate
>>    rather than on top of whatever survived the triple fault. Is that worth
>>    doing?
> 
> My gut reaction is I don't see how this can possibly be safe or correct.  How
> does the guest taking a series of faults have anything to do with what accesses
> KVM needs to intercept?

Fair point, there's no connection. init_vmcb() sets the intercepts it wants
and the recalc on reset covers the rest, so zeroing them buys nothing. I'll
drop it.

> 
>> 3. For nested, same fields are copied to vmcb12 when a shutdown is intercepted
>>    in L2. Clear them while copying so L1 gets a deterministic value
>>    rather than whatever the hardware left behind. Does that seem like right
>>    thing to do?
> 
> No, because that violates the rule of "don't make stuff up".  It could also be
> actively detrimental to L1's ability to debug issues (e.g. if hardware leaves
> breadcrumbs in the save area), and risks creating guest<=>host ABI that we don't
> want to support.

Understood, I'll leave vmcb12 alone.

That leaves just the save area and the control fields the APM says are
undefined after a shutdown. I'll post that as a separate patch.

Thanks,
Shivansh

  reply	other threads:[~2026-08-24  6:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-01-29  6:36 [PATCH 0/7] KVM: SVM: Enable FRED support Shivansh Dhiman
2026-01-29  6:36 ` [PATCH 1/7] KVM: SVM: Initialize FRED VMCB fields Shivansh Dhiman
2026-03-07  1:58   ` Sean Christopherson
2026-03-09 17:46     ` Shivansh Dhiman
2026-03-09 18:57       ` Sean Christopherson
2026-03-11  4:18         ` Shivansh Dhiman
2026-03-27  6:41       ` Shivansh Dhiman
2026-01-29  6:36 ` [PATCH 2/7] KVM: SVM: Disable interception of FRED MSRs for FRED supported guests Shivansh Dhiman
2026-03-07  2:10   ` Sean Christopherson
2026-03-09 17:47     ` Shivansh Dhiman
2026-01-29  6:36 ` [PATCH 3/7] KVM: SVM: Save restore FRED_RSP0 " Shivansh Dhiman
2026-03-05 20:37   ` Shivansh Dhiman
2026-01-29  6:36 ` [PATCH 4/7] KVM: SVM: Populate FRED event data on event injection Shivansh Dhiman
2026-03-06 11:31   ` Paolo Bonzini
2026-03-09 19:47     ` Shivansh Dhiman
2026-01-29  6:36 ` [PATCH 5/7] KVM: SVM: Support FRED nested exception injection Shivansh Dhiman
2026-03-07  2:07   ` Sean Christopherson
2026-03-10 15:56     ` Shivansh Dhiman
2026-03-10 16:20       ` Sean Christopherson
2026-03-11  4:12         ` Shivansh Dhiman
2026-01-29  6:36 ` [PATCH 6/7] KVM: SVM: Dump FRED context in dump_vmcb() Shivansh Dhiman
2026-03-07  2:03   ` Sean Christopherson
2026-03-09 19:57     ` Shivansh Dhiman
2026-01-29  6:36 ` [PATCH 7/7] KVM: SVM: Enable save/restore of FRED MSRs Shivansh Dhiman
2026-03-07  2:14   ` Sean Christopherson
2026-03-09 18:20     ` Shivansh Dhiman
2026-08-10  8:39     ` Shivansh Dhiman
2026-08-12 23:27       ` Sean Christopherson
2026-08-13  8:19         ` Nikunj A. Dadhania
2026-08-13 23:47           ` Sean Christopherson
2026-08-14  3:07             ` Nikunj A. Dadhania
2026-08-14 16:57               ` Sean Christopherson
2026-08-19 12:08         ` Shivansh Dhiman
2026-08-21 13:28           ` Sean Christopherson
2026-08-24  6:30             ` Shivansh Dhiman [this message]
2026-02-06  9:22 ` [PATCH 0/7] KVM: SVM: Enable FRED support Shivansh Dhiman
2026-02-11  0:53   ` Andrew Cooper
2026-03-06  9:33     ` Shivansh Dhiman
2026-03-03 17:58 ` Shivansh Dhiman

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