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From: David Matlack <dmatlack@google.com>
To: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
Cc: Josh Hilke <jrhilke@google.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, Alex Williamson <alex@shazbot.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 00/14] KVM: selftests: Link with VFIO selftests lib and test device interrupts
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2026 18:52:03 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ac1pUx_jYv2yCMnX@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ac1hI93pEo-x-7YU@google.com>

On 2026-04-01 11:17 AM, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 31, 2026, Josh Hilke wrote:

> > This test only supports x86. Testing physical device interrupts (-d argument) is
> > only supported for Intel because there are no VFIO selftest drivers for AMD
> > devices.
> 
> This needs to be expressed in code and human readable error messages to the user.
> I already knew the basic of what the VFIO selfests are doing, and it still took
> me 5+ minutes to find the DSA driver and probing logic.
> 
> Concretely, this code needs to be part of the standard vfio selftests APIs:
> 
> 	device = vfio_pci_device_init(device_bdf, iommu);
> 
> 	has_driver = !!device->driver.ops;
> 
> E.g. have vfio_pci_device_init() explicitly return an error (or NULL) if it can't
> init the device driver.

No. Not every VFIO selftest or user of libvfio needs a driver. A driver
is only needed in tests that want to use the driver, i.e. want to call
one of the very obviously named functions:

 - vfio_pci_driver_send_msi()
 - vfio_pci_driver_memcpy()
 - etc.

Requiring a driver for vfio_pci_device_init() to return non-NULL would
significantly reduce our ability to test VFIO on different platforms and
environments.

> The fixtures in vfio_pci_driver_test.c already blindly assume success, so you
> might not need to do much beyond changing main() in that file.

I don't follow. What is the issue with vfio_pci_driver_test.?

> And then, also as a vfio_pci_device_xxx() API, add a helper to print out what
> devices are supported, e.g. so that KVM selftests can do something like:

Agree this would be nice to have. Is this a blocker for this series?

> struct vfio_pci_device *kvm_vfio_device_init(const char *bdf)
> {
> 	struct vfio_pci_device *device;
> 	struct iommu *iommu;
> 
> 	iommu = iommu_init(default_iommu_mode);
> 
> 	device = vfio_pci_device_init(bdf, iommu);
> 	if (!device) {
> 		vfio_pci_device_print_drivers(stderr);
> 		TEST_FAIL("No driver found for BDF '%s'", bdf);
> 	}
> 	return device;
> }
> 
> Because as is, this requires way too much a priori knowledge and magic for
> upstream.  The user shouldn't have to dig through code just to understand what
> devices are supported.
>
> Ideally, VFIO selftests would also provide a script, utility, and/or helper to
> identify BDFs for devices it has drivers for.  In my experience, binding a device
> to VFIO is trivial.  Finding the device in the first place is more annoying.

Agree this would be nice to have. Is this a blocker for this series?

  reply	other threads:[~2026-04-01 18:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-03-31 19:40 [PATCH v2 00/14] KVM: selftests: Link with VFIO selftests lib and test device interrupts Josh Hilke
2026-03-31 19:40 ` [PATCH v2 01/14] KVM: selftests: Build and link sefltests/vfio/lib into KVM selftests Josh Hilke
2026-04-01 18:17   ` Sean Christopherson
2026-04-01 23:49     ` Josh Hilke
2026-03-31 19:40 ` [PATCH v2 02/14] KVM: selftests: Add helper functions for IRQ testing Josh Hilke
2026-04-01 18:26   ` Sean Christopherson
2026-04-01 23:54     ` Josh Hilke
2026-03-31 19:40 ` [PATCH v2 03/14] KVM: selftests: Add vfio_pci_irq_test Josh Hilke
2026-04-01 19:58   ` Sean Christopherson
2026-04-02  0:13     ` Josh Hilke
2026-04-02 17:52       ` Sean Christopherson
2026-03-31 19:40 ` [PATCH v2 04/14] KVM: selftests: Reproduce tests that rely on randomization Josh Hilke
2026-03-31 19:40 ` [PATCH v2 05/14] KVM: selftests: Add support for random host IRQ affinity Josh Hilke
2026-04-01 20:01   ` Sean Christopherson
2026-04-02  1:16     ` Josh Hilke
2026-03-31 19:40 ` [PATCH v2 06/14] KVM: selftests: Allow blocking vCPUs via HLT Josh Hilke
2026-04-01 20:03   ` Sean Christopherson
2026-03-31 19:40 ` [PATCH v2 07/14] KVM: selftests: Add support for physical device MSI triggers Josh Hilke
2026-04-01 20:24   ` Sean Christopherson
2026-04-02  3:23     ` Josh Hilke
2026-03-31 19:40 ` [PATCH v2 08/14] KVM: selftests: Add option to clear GSI routes Josh Hilke
2026-03-31 19:40 ` [PATCH v2 09/14] KVM: selftests: Make test IRQ count configurable Josh Hilke
2026-03-31 19:40 ` [PATCH v2 10/14] KVM: selftests: Add support for NMI delivery Josh Hilke
2026-04-01 20:29   ` Sean Christopherson
2026-04-02  5:27     ` Josh Hilke
2026-03-31 19:40 ` [PATCH v2 11/14] KVM: selftests: Add support for vCPU pinning Josh Hilke
2026-04-01 20:55   ` Sean Christopherson
2026-03-31 19:40 ` [PATCH v2 12/14] KVM: selftests: Support testing with multiple vCPUs Josh Hilke
2026-03-31 19:40 ` [PATCH v2 13/14] KVM: selftests: Add xAPIC mode support Josh Hilke
2026-03-31 19:40 ` [PATCH v2 14/14] KVM: selftests: Make vfio_pci_irq_test timeout configurable Josh Hilke
2026-04-01 21:00   ` Sean Christopherson
2026-04-01 18:17 ` [PATCH v2 00/14] KVM: selftests: Link with VFIO selftests lib and test device interrupts Sean Christopherson
2026-04-01 18:52   ` David Matlack [this message]
2026-04-01 19:07     ` Sean Christopherson
2026-04-01 20:12       ` David Matlack
2026-04-01 23:41         ` Josh Hilke
2026-04-01 23:58           ` David Matlack
2026-04-02  0:38             ` Josh Hilke
2026-04-02  1:49               ` Josh Hilke
2026-04-02 17:35                 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-04-02 17:56                   ` David Matlack
2026-04-02 18:07                     ` Josh Hilke

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