public inbox for kvm@vger.kernel.org
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>
Cc: Yan Zhao <yan.y.zhao@intel.com>,
	pbonzini@redhat.com, dave.hansen@linux.intel.com,
	 tglx@kernel.org, mingo@redhat.com, bp@alien8.de, kas@kernel.org,
	 x86@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org,  linux-coco@lists.linux.dev,
	kai.huang@intel.com, rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com,
	 yilun.xu@linux.intel.com, vannapurve@google.com,
	ackerleytng@google.com,  sagis@google.com,
	binbin.wu@linux.intel.com, xiaoyao.li@intel.com,
	 isaku.yamahata@intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] x86/virt/tdx: Use PFN directly for mapping guest private memory
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2026 15:11:56 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ac7prNS2HXH8YowS@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <33adf49d-4937-413e-a594-830c11b2bed0@intel.com>

On Thu, Apr 02, 2026, Dave Hansen wrote:
> On 4/2/26 13:47, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> > On Thu, Mar 19, 2026, Dave Hansen wrote:
> >> On 3/18/26 17:57, Yan Zhao wrote:
> >>> Remove the completely unnecessary assumption that memory mapped into a TDX
> >>> guest is backed by refcounted struct page memory. From KVM's point of view,
> >>> TDH_MEM_PAGE_ADD and TDH_MEM_PAGE_AUG are glorified writes to PTEs, so they
> >>> have no business placing requirements on how KVM and guest_memfd manage
> >>> memory.
> >>
> >> I think this goes a bit too far.
> >>
> >> It's one thing to say that it's more convenient for KVM to stick with
> >> pfns because it's what KVM uses now. Or, that the goals of using 'struct
> >> page' can be accomplished other ways. It's quite another to say what
> >> other bits of the codebase have "business" doing.
> >>
> >> Sean, can we tone this down a _bit_ to help guide folks in the future?
> > 
> > I strongly disagree on this one.
> 
> I think I understand the motivation now. All I'm saying is that instead
> of something like:
> 
> 	Remove the completely unnecessary assumption that memory mapped
> 	into a TDX guest is backed by refcounted struct page memory.
> 
> I'd rather see something along the lines of
> 
> 	KVM's MMUs work with PFNs. This is very much an intentional
> 	design choice. It ensures that the KVM MMUs remains flexible
> 	and are not too tied to the regular CPU MMUs and the kernel code
> 	around	them.
> 
> 	Using 'struct page' for TDX memory is not a good fit anywhere
> 	near the KVM MMU code.
> 
> Would you disagree strongly with that kind of rewording?

Not at all, works for me.

  reply	other threads:[~2026-04-02 22:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-03-19  0:56 [PATCH 0/2] struct page to PFN conversion for TDX guest private memory Yan Zhao
2026-03-19  0:57 ` [PATCH 1/2] x86/virt/tdx: Use PFN directly for mapping " Yan Zhao
2026-03-19 10:39   ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-03-19 11:59     ` Yan Zhao
2026-03-19 12:14       ` Yan Zhao
2026-03-19 12:57       ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-03-19 17:27         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-03-20 12:59           ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-03-20 17:31             ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-03-20 17:38               ` Dave Hansen
2026-03-20 17:48                 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-03-19 18:05   ` Dave Hansen
2026-03-25  9:10     ` Yan Zhao
2026-03-25 16:57       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-03-27  7:03         ` Yan Zhao
2026-03-31 19:13           ` Sean Christopherson
2026-04-02 20:47     ` Sean Christopherson
2026-04-02 21:09       ` Dave Hansen
2026-04-02 22:11         ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2026-04-02 23:23   ` Ackerley Tng
2026-04-02 23:35     ` Sean Christopherson
2026-04-02 23:36     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-04-02 23:46       ` Sean Christopherson
2026-04-02 23:53         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-03-19  0:58 ` [PATCH 2/2] x86/virt/tdx: Use PFN directly for unmapping " Yan Zhao
2026-03-19  3:20   ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-03-19  6:45     ` Yan Zhao
2026-03-19  8:56       ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-03-19  8:56         ` Yan Zhao
2026-04-04  6:39           ` Paolo Bonzini
2026-03-19 18:44         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-03-19 10:48   ` Kiryl Shutsemau

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=ac7prNS2HXH8YowS@google.com \
    --to=seanjc@google.com \
    --cc=ackerleytng@google.com \
    --cc=binbin.wu@linux.intel.com \
    --cc=bp@alien8.de \
    --cc=dave.hansen@intel.com \
    --cc=dave.hansen@linux.intel.com \
    --cc=isaku.yamahata@intel.com \
    --cc=kai.huang@intel.com \
    --cc=kas@kernel.org \
    --cc=kvm@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-coco@lists.linux.dev \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=mingo@redhat.com \
    --cc=pbonzini@redhat.com \
    --cc=rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com \
    --cc=sagis@google.com \
    --cc=tglx@kernel.org \
    --cc=vannapurve@google.com \
    --cc=x86@kernel.org \
    --cc=xiaoyao.li@intel.com \
    --cc=yan.y.zhao@intel.com \
    --cc=yilun.xu@linux.intel.com \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox