From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>
Cc: Yan Zhao <yan.y.zhao@intel.com>,
pbonzini@redhat.com, dave.hansen@linux.intel.com,
tglx@kernel.org, mingo@redhat.com, bp@alien8.de, kas@kernel.org,
x86@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-coco@lists.linux.dev,
kai.huang@intel.com, rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com,
yilun.xu@linux.intel.com, vannapurve@google.com,
ackerleytng@google.com, sagis@google.com,
binbin.wu@linux.intel.com, xiaoyao.li@intel.com,
isaku.yamahata@intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] x86/virt/tdx: Use PFN directly for mapping guest private memory
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2026 15:11:56 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ac7prNS2HXH8YowS@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <33adf49d-4937-413e-a594-830c11b2bed0@intel.com>
On Thu, Apr 02, 2026, Dave Hansen wrote:
> On 4/2/26 13:47, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> > On Thu, Mar 19, 2026, Dave Hansen wrote:
> >> On 3/18/26 17:57, Yan Zhao wrote:
> >>> Remove the completely unnecessary assumption that memory mapped into a TDX
> >>> guest is backed by refcounted struct page memory. From KVM's point of view,
> >>> TDH_MEM_PAGE_ADD and TDH_MEM_PAGE_AUG are glorified writes to PTEs, so they
> >>> have no business placing requirements on how KVM and guest_memfd manage
> >>> memory.
> >>
> >> I think this goes a bit too far.
> >>
> >> It's one thing to say that it's more convenient for KVM to stick with
> >> pfns because it's what KVM uses now. Or, that the goals of using 'struct
> >> page' can be accomplished other ways. It's quite another to say what
> >> other bits of the codebase have "business" doing.
> >>
> >> Sean, can we tone this down a _bit_ to help guide folks in the future?
> >
> > I strongly disagree on this one.
>
> I think I understand the motivation now. All I'm saying is that instead
> of something like:
>
> Remove the completely unnecessary assumption that memory mapped
> into a TDX guest is backed by refcounted struct page memory.
>
> I'd rather see something along the lines of
>
> KVM's MMUs work with PFNs. This is very much an intentional
> design choice. It ensures that the KVM MMUs remains flexible
> and are not too tied to the regular CPU MMUs and the kernel code
> around them.
>
> Using 'struct page' for TDX memory is not a good fit anywhere
> near the KVM MMU code.
>
> Would you disagree strongly with that kind of rewording?
Not at all, works for me.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-04-02 22:11 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-03-19 0:56 [PATCH 0/2] struct page to PFN conversion for TDX guest private memory Yan Zhao
2026-03-19 0:57 ` [PATCH 1/2] x86/virt/tdx: Use PFN directly for mapping " Yan Zhao
2026-03-19 10:39 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-03-19 11:59 ` Yan Zhao
2026-03-19 12:14 ` Yan Zhao
2026-03-19 12:57 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-03-19 17:27 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-03-20 12:59 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-03-20 17:31 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-03-20 17:38 ` Dave Hansen
2026-03-20 17:48 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-03-19 18:05 ` Dave Hansen
2026-03-25 9:10 ` Yan Zhao
2026-03-25 16:57 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-03-27 7:03 ` Yan Zhao
2026-03-31 19:13 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-04-02 20:47 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-04-02 21:09 ` Dave Hansen
2026-04-02 22:11 ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2026-04-02 23:23 ` Ackerley Tng
2026-04-02 23:35 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-04-02 23:36 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-04-02 23:46 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-04-02 23:53 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-03-19 0:58 ` [PATCH 2/2] x86/virt/tdx: Use PFN directly for unmapping " Yan Zhao
2026-03-19 3:20 ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-03-19 6:45 ` Yan Zhao
2026-03-19 8:56 ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-03-19 8:56 ` Yan Zhao
2026-04-04 6:39 ` Paolo Bonzini
2026-03-19 18:44 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-03-19 10:48 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
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