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From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: Thomas Lefebvre <thomas.lefebvre3@gmail.com>
Cc: pbonzini@redhat.com, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,  linux-hyperv@vger.kernel.org,
	vkuznets@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [BUG] KVM: x86: kvmclock jumps ~253 years on Hyper-V nested virt due to cross-CPU raw TSC inconsistency
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2026 07:11:29 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <adO_EYdKtl_TXooI@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKdXbaV1PTwetd4zs6+6Rp7h0dwHU1ygMoof5eAcfL6XYZF1xA@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Apr 05, 2026, Thomas Lefebvre wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I'm seeing KVM_GET_CLOCK return values ~253 years in the future when
> running KVM inside a Hyper-V VM (nested virtualization).  I tracked
> it down to an unsigned wraparound in __get_kvmclock() and have
> bpftrace data showing the exact failure.
> 
> Setup:
>   - Intel i7-11800H laptop running Windows with Hyper-V
>   - L1 guest: Ubuntu 24.04, kernel 6.8.0, 4 vCPUs
>   - Clocksource: hyperv_clocksource_tsc_page (VDSO_CLOCKMODE_HVCLOCK)
>   - KVM running inside L1, hosting L2 guests
> 
> Root cause:
> 
> __get_kvmclock() does:
> 
>     hv_clock.tsc_timestamp = ka->master_cycle_now;
>     hv_clock.system_time = ka->master_kernel_ns + ka->kvmclock_offset;
>     ...
>     data->clock = __pvclock_read_cycles(&hv_clock, data->host_tsc);
> 
> and __pvclock_read_cycles() does:
> 
>     delta = tsc - src->tsc_timestamp;    /* unsigned */
> 
> master_cycle_now is a raw RDTSC captured by
> pvclock_update_vm_gtod_copy().  host_tsc is a raw RDTSC read by
> __get_kvmclock() on the current CPU.  Both go through the vgettsc()
> HVCLOCK path which calls hv_read_tsc_page_tsc() -- this computes a
> cross-CPU-consistent reference counter via scale/offset, but stores
> the *raw* RDTSC in tsc_timestamp as a side effect.
> 
> Under Hyper-V, raw RDTSC values are not consistent across vCPUs.
> The hypervisor corrects them only through the TSC page scale/offset.
> If pvclock_update_vm_gtod_copy() runs on CPU 0 and __get_kvmclock()
> later runs on CPU 1 where the raw TSC is lower, the unsigned
> subtraction wraps.
> 
> I wrote a bpftrace tracer (included below) to instrument both
> functions and captured two corruption events:
> 
>   Event 1:
> 
>     [GTOD_COPY] pid=2117649 cpu=0->0 use_master=1
>                 mcn=598992030530137 mkn=259977082393200
> 
>     [GET_CLOCK] pid=2117649 entry_cpu=1 exit_cpu=1 use_master=1
>       clock=8006399342167092479 host_tsc=598991848289183
>       master_cycle_now=598992030530137
>       system_time(mkn+off)=5175860260
>       TSC DEFICIT: 182240954 cycles
> 
>     master_cycle_now captured on CPU 0, host_tsc read on CPU 1.
>     CPU 1's raw RDTSC was 182M cycles lower.
> 
>       598991848289183 - 598992030530137 = 18446744073527310662 (u64)
> 
>     Returned clock: 8,006,399,342,167,092,479 ns (~253.7 years)
>     Correct system_time: 5,175,860,260 ns (~5.2 seconds)
> 
>   Event 2:
> 
>     [GTOD_COPY] pid=2117953 cpu=0->0 use_master=1
>                 mcn=599040238416510
> 
>     [GET_CLOCK] pid=2117953 entry_cpu=3 exit_cpu=3 use_master=1
>       clock=8006399342464295526 host_tsc=599040211994220
>       master_cycle_now=599040238416510
>       TSC DEFICIT: 26422290 cycles
> 
>     Same pattern, CPU 0 vs CPU 3, 26M cycle deficit.
> 
> kvm_get_wall_clock_epoch() has the same pattern -- fresh host_tsc
> vs stale master_cycle_now passed to __pvclock_read_cycles().
> 
> The simplest fix I can think of is guarding the __pvclock_read_cycles
> call in __get_kvmclock():
> 
>     if (data->host_tsc >= hv_clock.tsc_timestamp)
>         data->clock = __pvclock_read_cycles(&hv_clock, data->host_tsc);
>     else
>         data->clock = hv_clock.system_time;

That might kinda sorta work for one KVM-as-the-host path, but it's not a proper
fix.  The actual guest-side (L2) reads in __pvclock_clocksource_read() will also
be broken, because PVCLOCK_TSC_STABLE_BIT will be set.

I don't see how this scenario can possibly work, KVM is effectively mixing two
time domains.  The stable timestamp from the TSC page is (obviously) *derived*
from the raw, *unstable* TSC, but they are two distinct domains.

What really confuses me is why we thought this would work for Hyper-V but not for
kvmclock (i.e. KVM-on-KVM).  Hyper-V's TSC page and kvmclock are the exact same
concept, but vgettsc() only special cases VDSO_CLOCKMODE_HVCLOCK, not
VDSO_CLOCKMODE_PVCLOCK.

Shouldn't we just revert b0c39dc68e3b ("x86/kvm: Pass stable clocksource to guests
when running nested on Hyper-V")?

Vitaly, what am I missing?

> system_time (= master_kernel_ns + kvmclock_offset) was computed from
> the TSC page's corrected reference counter and is accurate regardless
> of CPU.  The fallback loses sub-us interpolation but avoids a 253-year
> jump.  On systems with consistent cross-CPU TSC, the branch is never
> taken.
> 
> One thing I wasn't sure about: when the fallback triggers,
> KVM_CLOCK_TSC_STABLE is still set in data->flags.  I left it alone
> since the returned value is still correct (just less precise), but
> I could see an argument for clearing it.
> 
> Disabling master clock entirely for HVCLOCK would also work but
> seemed heavy -- it sacrifices PVCLOCK_TSC_STABLE_BIT, forces the
> guest pvclock read into the atomic64_cmpxchg monotonicity guard,
> and triggers KVM_REQ_GLOBAL_CLOCK_UPDATE on vCPU migration.
> 
> Reproducer bpftrace script (run while exercising KVM on a Hyper-V
> host):
> 
>   #!/usr/bin/env bpftrace
>   /*
>    * Detect host_tsc < master_cycle_now in __get_kvmclock.
>    *
>    * struct kvm_clock_data layout (for raw offset reads):
>    *   offset 0:  u64 clock
>    *   offset 24: u64 host_tsc
>    */
> 
>   kprobe:__get_kvmclock
>   {
>       $kvm = (struct kvm *)arg0;
>       @get_data[tid] = (uint64)arg1;
>       @get_use_master[tid] = (uint64)$kvm->arch.use_master_clock;
>       @get_mcn[tid] = (uint64)$kvm->arch.master_cycle_now;
>       @get_cpu[tid] = cpu;
>   }
> 
>   kretprobe:__get_kvmclock
>   {
>       $data_ptr = @get_data[tid];
>       if ($data_ptr != 0) {
>           $clock = *(uint64 *)($data_ptr);
>           $host_tsc = *(uint64 *)($data_ptr + 24);
>           $use_master = @get_use_master[tid];
>           $mcn = @get_mcn[tid];
> 
>           if ($use_master && $host_tsc != 0 && $host_tsc < $mcn) {
>               printf("BUG: pid=%d cpu=%d->%d host_tsc=%lu mcn=%lu "
>                      "deficit=%lu clock=%lu\n",
>                      pid, @get_cpu[tid], cpu, $host_tsc,
>                      $mcn, $mcn - $host_tsc, $clock);
>           }
>       }
>       delete(@get_data[tid]);
>       delete(@get_use_master[tid]);
>       delete(@get_mcn[tid]);
>       delete(@get_cpu[tid]);
>   }
> 
>   kprobe:pvclock_update_vm_gtod_copy {
>       @gtod_kvm[tid] = (uint64)arg0;
>       @gtod_cpu[tid] = cpu;
>   }
>   kretprobe:pvclock_update_vm_gtod_copy
>   {
>       $kvm = (struct kvm *)@gtod_kvm[tid];
>       if ($kvm != 0) {
>           printf("GTOD: pid=%d cpu=%d->%d mcn=%lu use_master=%d\n",
>                  pid, @gtod_cpu[tid], cpu,
>                  $kvm->arch.master_cycle_now,
>                  $kvm->arch.use_master_clock);
>       }
>       delete(@gtod_kvm[tid]);
>       delete(@gtod_cpu[tid]);
>   }
> 
> Thanks,
> Thomas

      reply	other threads:[~2026-04-06 14:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 2+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-04-05 22:10 [BUG] KVM: x86: kvmclock jumps ~253 years on Hyper-V nested virt due to cross-CPU raw TSC inconsistency Thomas Lefebvre
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