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From: "Nikunj A. Dadhania" <nikunj@amd.com>
To: Mingwei Zhang <mizhang@google.com>
Cc: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>,
	Vitaly Kuznetsov <vkuznets@redhat.com>,
	Wanpeng Li <wanpengli@tencent.com>,
	Jim Mattson <jmattson@google.com>, Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>,
	Brijesh Singh <brijesh.singh@amd.com>,
	Tom Lendacky <thomas.lendacky@amd.com>,
	Peter Gonda <pgonda@google.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Bharata B Rao <bharata@amd.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/6] KVM: SVM: Defer page pinning for SEV guests
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2022 18:32:19 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <adbd9285-d6a0-3112-2ba2-cf33fdf39bae@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YiUUcuEuWbQrPs2E@google.com>

On 3/7/2022 1:37 AM, Mingwei Zhang wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 18, 2022, Nikunj A Dadhania wrote:
>> SEV guest requires the guest's pages to be pinned in host physical
>> memory as migration of encrypted pages is not supported. The memory
>> encryption scheme uses the physical address of the memory being
>> encrypted. If guest pages are moved by the host, content decrypted in
>> the guest would be incorrect thereby corrupting guest's memory.
>>
>> For SEV/SEV-ES guests, the hypervisor doesn't know which pages are
>> encrypted and when the guest is done using those pages. Hypervisor
>> should treat all the guest pages as encrypted until the guest is
>> destroyed.
> "Hypervisor should treat all the guest pages as encrypted until they are
> deallocated or the guest is destroyed".
> 
> Note: in general, the guest VM could ask the user-level VMM to free the
> page by either free the memslot or free the pages (munmap(2)).
> 

Sure, will update

>>
>> Actual pinning management is handled by vendor code via new
>> kvm_x86_ops hooks. MMU calls in to vendor code to pin the page on
>> demand. Metadata of the pinning is stored in architecture specific
>> memslot area. During the memslot freeing path guest pages are
>> unpinned.
> 
> "During the memslot freeing path and deallocation path"

Sure.

> 
>>
>> Initially started with [1], where the idea was to store the pinning
>> information using the software bit in the SPTE to track the pinned
>> page. That is not feasible for the following reason:
>>
>> The pinned SPTE information gets stored in the shadow pages(SP). The
>> way current MMU is designed, the full MMU context gets dropped
>> multiple number of times even when CR0.WP bit gets flipped. Due to
>> dropping of the MMU context (aka roots), there is a huge amount of SP
>> alloc/remove churn. Pinned information stored in the SP gets lost
>> during the dropping of the root and subsequent SP at the child levels.
>> Without this information making decisions about re-pinnning page or
>> unpinning during the guest shutdown will not be possible
>>
>> [1] https://patchwork.kernel.org/project/kvm/cover/20200731212323.21746-1-sean.j.christopherson@intel.com/ 
>>
> 
> A general feedback: I really like this patch set and I think doing
> memory pinning at fault path in kernel and storing the metadata in
> memslot is the right thing to do.
> 
> This basically solves all the problems triggered by the KVM based API
> that trusts the user-level VMM to do the memory pinning.
> 
Thanks for the feedback.

Regards
Nikunj

      reply	other threads:[~2022-03-07 13:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-01-18 11:06 [RFC PATCH 0/6] KVM: SVM: Defer page pinning for SEV guests Nikunj A Dadhania
2022-01-18 11:06 ` [RFC PATCH 1/6] KVM: x86/mmu: Add hook to pin PFNs on demand in MMU Nikunj A Dadhania
2022-01-18 11:06 ` [RFC PATCH 2/6] KVM: SVM: Add pinning metadata in the arch memslot Nikunj A Dadhania
2022-01-18 11:06 ` [RFC PATCH 3/6] KVM: SVM: Implement demand page pinning Nikunj A Dadhania
2022-01-25 16:47   ` Peter Gonda
2022-01-25 17:49     ` Nikunj A. Dadhania
2022-01-25 17:59       ` Peter Gonda
2022-01-27 16:29         ` Nikunj A. Dadhania
2022-01-26 10:46   ` David Hildenbrand
2022-01-28  6:57     ` Nikunj A. Dadhania
2022-01-28  8:27       ` David Hildenbrand
2022-01-28 11:04         ` Nikunj A. Dadhania
2022-01-28 11:08           ` David Hildenbrand
2022-01-31 11:56             ` David Hildenbrand
2022-01-31 12:18               ` Nikunj A. Dadhania
2022-01-31 12:41                 ` David Hildenbrand
2022-03-06 19:48   ` Mingwei Zhang
2022-03-07  7:08     ` Nikunj A. Dadhania
2022-01-18 11:06 ` [RFC PATCH 4/6] KVM: x86/mmu: Introduce kvm_mmu_map_tdp_page() for use by SEV/TDX Nikunj A Dadhania
2022-01-18 11:06 ` [RFC PATCH 5/6] KVM: SEV: Carve out routine for allocation of pages Nikunj A Dadhania
2022-01-18 11:06 ` [RFC PATCH 6/6] KVM: SVM: Pin SEV pages in MMU during sev_launch_update_data() Nikunj A Dadhania
2022-01-18 15:00   ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2022-01-18 17:29     ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2022-01-19 11:35       ` Nikunj A. Dadhania
2022-01-19  6:33     ` Nikunj A. Dadhania
2022-01-19 18:52       ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2022-01-20  4:24         ` Nikunj A. Dadhania
2022-01-20 16:17   ` Peter Gonda
2022-01-21  4:08     ` Nikunj A. Dadhania
2022-01-21 16:00       ` Peter Gonda
2022-01-21 17:14         ` Nikunj A. Dadhania
2022-03-06 20:07 ` [RFC PATCH 0/6] KVM: SVM: Defer page pinning for SEV guests Mingwei Zhang
2022-03-07 13:02   ` Nikunj A. Dadhania [this message]

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