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From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: Jim Mattson <jmattson@google.com>
Cc: Yosry Ahmed <yosry@kernel.org>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org,  linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 4/6] KVM: x86/pmu: Re-evaluate Host-Only/Guest-Only on nested SVM transitions
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2026 14:21:14 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <adgYSnE-I1Z19fCY@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <adfyKU5WUiW4OnUg@google.com>

On Thu, Apr 09, 2026, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 09, 2026, Jim Mattson wrote:
> > On Thu, Apr 9, 2026 at 10:48 AM Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com> wrote:
> > > On Thu, Apr 09, 2026, Jim Mattson wrote:
> > > > > > In general, this deferral is misguided. The G/H bits should be
> > > > > > re-evaluated before we call kvm_pmu_instruction_retired() for an
> > > > > > emulated instruction.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > diff --git a/arch/x86/kvm/x86.h b/arch/x86/kvm/x86.h
> > > > > > > index f1c29ac306917..966e4138308f6 100644
> > > > > > > --- a/arch/x86/kvm/x86.h
> > > > > > > +++ b/arch/x86/kvm/x86.h
> > > > > > > @@ -9,6 +9,7 @@
> > > > > > >  #include "kvm_cache_regs.h"
> > > > > > >  #include "kvm_emulate.h"
> > > > > > >  #include "cpuid.h"
> > > > > > > +#include "pmu.h"
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >  #define KVM_MAX_MCE_BANKS 32
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > @@ -152,6 +153,8 @@ static inline void enter_guest_mode(struct kvm_vcpu *vcpu)
> > > > > > >  {
> > > > > > >         vcpu->arch.hflags |= HF_GUEST_MASK;
> > > > > > >         vcpu->stat.guest_mode = 1;
> > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > +       kvm_pmu_handle_nested_transition(vcpu);
> > > > > > >  }
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This happens too late for VMRUN, since we have already called
> > > > > > kvm_pmu_instruction_retired() via kvm_skip_emulated_instruction(), and
> > > > > > VMRUN counts as a *guest* instruction.
> > > > >
> > > > > It's just VMRUN that's problematic though, correct?  I.e. the scheme as a whole
> > > > > is fine, we just need to special case VMRUN due to SVM's erratum^Warchitecture.
> > > > > Alternatively, maybe we could get AMD to document the silly VMRUN behavior as an
> > > > > erratum, then we could claim KVM is architecturally superior. :-D
> > > >
> > > > Here, it's just VMRUN. Above, it's WRMSR(EFER).
> > >
> > > But clearing EFER.SVME while in the guest generates architecturally undefined
> > > behavior.  I don't see any reason to complicate PMU virtualization for that
> > > scenario, especially now that KVM synthesizes triple fault for L1.
> > 
> > L1 can clear the virtual EFER.SVME. That is well-defined.
> 
> Gah, I forgot that the H/G bits are ignored when EFER.SVME=0.  That's really
> annoying.

What do you think about having two flavors of kvm_pmu_handle_nested_transition()?
One that defers via a request, and a "special" (SVM-only?) version that does
direct updates.

Poking into PMU state in arbitrary contexts makes me nervous.  E.g. when calling
svm_leave_nested(), odds are good EFER isn't even correct, and the update *needs*
to be deferred.

I definitely don't love having two separate update mechanisms, but it seems like
the safest option in this case.

  reply	other threads:[~2026-04-09 21:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-03-26  3:11 [PATCH v4 0/6] KVM: x86/pmu: Add support for AMD Host-Only/Guest-Only bits Yosry Ahmed
2026-03-26  3:11 ` [PATCH v4 1/6] KVM: x86: Move enable_pmu/enable_mediated_pmu to pmu.h and pmu.c Yosry Ahmed
2026-03-26  3:11 ` [PATCH v4 2/6] KVM: x86: Move guest_mode helpers to x86.h Yosry Ahmed
2026-03-26 22:48   ` kernel test robot
2026-03-26 23:18     ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-03-27  3:15   ` kernel test robot
2026-03-26  3:11 ` [PATCH v4 3/6] KVM: x86/pmu: Disable counters based on Host-Only/Guest-Only bits in SVM Yosry Ahmed
2026-04-07  1:30   ` Sean Christopherson
2026-03-26  3:11 ` [PATCH v4 4/6] KVM: x86/pmu: Re-evaluate Host-Only/Guest-Only on nested SVM transitions Yosry Ahmed
2026-04-07  1:35   ` Sean Christopherson
2026-04-09  4:59   ` Jim Mattson
2026-04-09 17:22     ` Sean Christopherson
2026-04-09 17:29       ` Jim Mattson
2026-04-09 17:48         ` Sean Christopherson
2026-04-09 18:35           ` Jim Mattson
2026-04-09 18:38             ` Sean Christopherson
2026-04-09 21:21               ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2026-03-26  3:11 ` [PATCH v4 5/6] KVM: x86/pmu: Allow Host-Only/Guest-Only bits with nSVM and mediated PMU Yosry Ahmed
2026-03-26  3:11 ` [PATCH v4 6/6] KVM: selftests: Add svm_pmu_host_guest_test for Host-Only/Guest-Only bits Yosry Ahmed
2026-04-07  1:39   ` Sean Christopherson
2026-04-07  3:23     ` Jim Mattson

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