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From: Steven Price <steven.price@arm.com>
To: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>, Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>
Cc: "Aneesh Kumar K . V" <aneesh.kumar@kernel.org>,
	Suzuki K Poulose <suzuki.poulose@arm.com>,
	Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>, James Morse <james.morse@arm.com>,
	Oliver Upton <oliver.upton@linux.dev>,
	Zenghui Yu <yuzenghui@huawei.com>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Joey Gouly <joey.gouly@arm.com>,
	Alexandru Elisei <alexandru.elisei@arm.com>,
	Christoffer Dall <christoffer.dall@arm.com>,
	Fuad Tabba <tabba@google.com>,
	linux-coco@lists.linux.dev,
	Ganapatrao Kulkarni <gankulkarni@os.amperecomputing.com>,
	Gavin Shan <gshan@redhat.com>,
	Shanker Donthineni <sdonthineni@nvidia.com>,
	Alper Gun <alpergun@google.com>,
	kvmarm@lists.linux.dev, kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 09/11] arm64: Enable memory encrypt for Realms
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2025 10:45:46 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aec8ecd9-55b0-4690-9c54-780fc47643bc@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250227002330.GA24899@willie-the-truck>

On 27/02/2025 00:23, Will Deacon wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 26, 2025 at 07:03:01PM +0000, Catalin Marinas wrote:
>> On Wed, Feb 19, 2025 at 02:30:28PM +0000, Steven Price wrote:
>>>> @@ -23,14 +25,16 @@ bool rodata_full __ro_after_init = IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_RODATA_FULL_DEFAULT_ENABLED
>>>>  bool can_set_direct_map(void)
>>>>  {
>>>>  	/*
>>>> -	 * rodata_full and DEBUG_PAGEALLOC require linear map to be
>>>> -	 * mapped at page granularity, so that it is possible to
>>>> +	 * rodata_full, DEBUG_PAGEALLOC and a Realm guest all require linear
>>>> +	 * map to be mapped at page granularity, so that it is possible to
>>>>  	 * protect/unprotect single pages.
>>>>  	 *
>>>>  	 * KFENCE pool requires page-granular mapping if initialized late.
>>>> +	 *
>>>> +	 * Realms need to make pages shared/protected at page granularity.
>>>>  	 */
>>>>  	return rodata_full || debug_pagealloc_enabled() ||
>>>> -	       arm64_kfence_can_set_direct_map();
>>>> +		arm64_kfence_can_set_direct_map() || is_realm_world();
>>>>  }
>>>
>>> Aneesh pointed out that this call to is_realm_world() is now too early 
>>> since the decision to delay the RSI detection. The upshot is that a 
>>> realm guest which doesn't have page granularity forced for other reasons 
>>> will fail to share pages with the host.
>>>
>>> At the moment I can think of a couple of options:
>>>
>>> (1) Make rodata_full a requirement for realm guests. 
>>>     CONFIG_RODATA_FULL_DEFAULT_ENABLED is already "default y" so this 
>>>     isn't a big ask.
>>>
>>> (2) Revisit the idea of detecting when running as a realm guest early. 
>>>     This has the advantage of also "fixing" earlycon (no need to 
>>>     manually specify the shared-alias of an unprotected UART).
>>>
>>> I'm currently leaning towards (1) because it's the default anyway. But 
>>> if we're going to need to fix earlycon (or indeed find other similar 
>>> issues) then (2) would obviously make sense.
>>
>> I'd go with (1) since the end result is the same even if we implemented
>> (2) - i.e. we still avoid block mappings in realms.
> 
> Is it, though? The config option is about the default behaviour but there's
> still an "rodata=" option on the command-line.

I think the question comes down to is there any value in having page
mappings and not setting the read-only permissions? I.e.
rodata_full=false but we're still avoiding block mappings.

(1) as I've currently proposed doesn't allow that combination - if you
disable rodata_full you also break realms (assuming
DEBUG_PAGEALLOC/kfence don't otherwise force can_set_direct_map().

(2) forces page mappings if there's an RMM present, but does allow
disabling the read-only permissions with "rodata=".

So I guess there's also another option:

(3) Provide another compile/command line flag which forces page mapping
which is different from rodata_full. That would then allow realms
without affecting the permissions.

or indeed:

(4) Change can_set_direct_map() to always return true! ;)

Thanks,
Steve


  reply	other threads:[~2025-02-27 10:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-10-17 13:14 [PATCH v7 00/11] arm64: Support for running as a guest in Arm CCA Steven Price
2024-10-17 13:14 ` [PATCH v7 01/11] arm64: rsi: Add RSI definitions Steven Price
2024-10-17 13:14 ` [PATCH v7 02/11] arm64: Detect if in a realm and set RIPAS RAM Steven Price
2024-10-17 13:14 ` [PATCH v7 03/11] arm64: realm: Query IPA size from the RMM Steven Price
2024-10-17 13:14 ` [PATCH v7 04/11] arm64: rsi: Add support for checking whether an MMIO is protected Steven Price
2024-10-17 13:14 ` [PATCH v7 05/11] arm64: rsi: Map unprotected MMIO as decrypted Steven Price
2024-10-17 13:14 ` [PATCH v7 06/11] efi: arm64: Map Device with Prot Shared Steven Price
2024-10-17 13:14 ` [PATCH v7 07/11] arm64: Enforce bounce buffers for realm DMA Steven Price
2024-10-17 13:14 ` [PATCH v7 08/11] arm64: mm: Avoid TLBI when marking pages as valid Steven Price
2024-10-17 13:14 ` [PATCH v7 09/11] arm64: Enable memory encrypt for Realms Steven Price
2025-02-19 14:30   ` Steven Price
2025-02-26 19:03     ` Catalin Marinas
2025-02-27  0:23       ` Will Deacon
2025-02-27 10:45         ` Steven Price [this message]
2025-02-27 10:55         ` Catalin Marinas
2025-02-27 17:22           ` Will Deacon
2025-02-27 21:21             ` Catalin Marinas
2024-10-17 13:14 ` [PATCH v7 10/11] virt: arm-cca-guest: TSM_REPORT support for realms Steven Price
2024-10-22 11:06   ` Catalin Marinas
2024-10-23  3:33     ` Gavin Shan
2024-10-23  3:29   ` Gavin Shan
2024-12-04 21:16   ` Dan Williams
2024-12-05 11:51     ` Catalin Marinas
2024-10-17 13:14 ` [PATCH v7 11/11] arm64: Document Arm Confidential Compute Steven Price
2024-10-23 10:02 ` [PATCH v7 00/11] arm64: Support for running as a guest in Arm CCA Catalin Marinas

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