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From: "Wang, Wei W" <wei.w.wang@intel.com>
To: "quintela@redhat.com" <quintela@redhat.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>,
	Jing Liu <jing2.liu@linux.intel.com>,
	"Zhong, Yang" <yang.zhong@intel.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"x86@kernel.org" <x86@kernel.org>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Sean Christoperson" <seanjc@google.com>,
	"Nakajima, Jun" <jun.nakajima@intel.com>,
	"Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com>,
	"Zeng, Guang" <guang.zeng@intel.com>
Subject: RE: [patch 5/6] x86/fpu: Provide fpu_update_guest_xcr0/xfd()
Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2021 02:17:45 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <afeba57f71f742b88aac3f01800086f9@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <878rwm7tu8.fsf@secure.mitica>

Hi Thomas,

On Wednesday, December 15, 2021 5:36 AM, Juan Quintela wrote:
> To: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
> Cc: Wang, Wei W <wei.w.wang@intel.com>; LKML
> <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>; Dr. David Alan Gilbert <dgilbert@redhat.com>;
> Jing Liu <jing2.liu@linux.intel.com>; Zhong, Yang <yang.zhong@intel.com>;
> Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>; x86@kernel.org; kvm@vger.kernel.org;
> Sean Christoperson <seanjc@google.com>; Nakajima, Jun
> <jun.nakajima@intel.com>; Tian, Kevin <kevin.tian@intel.com>
> Subject: Re: [patch 5/6] x86/fpu: Provide fpu_update_guest_xcr0/xfd()
> 
> Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de> wrote:
> 
> Hi Thomas
> 
> > On Tue, Dec 14 2021 at 20:07, Juan Quintela wrote:
> >> Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de> wrote:
> >>> On Tue, Dec 14 2021 at 16:11, Wei W. Wang wrote:
> >>>> We need to check with the QEMU migration maintainer (Dave and Juan
> >>>> CC-ed) if changing that ordering would be OK.
> >>>> (In general, I think there are no hard rules documented for this
> >>>> ordering)
> >>>
> >>> There haven't been ordering requirements so far, but with dynamic
> >>> feature enablement there are.
> >>>
> >>> I really want to avoid going to the point to deduce it from the
> >>> xstate:xfeatures bitmap, which is just backwards and Qemu has all
> >>> the required information already.
> >>
> >> First of all, I claim ZERO knowledge about low level x86_64.
> >
> > Lucky you.
> 
> Well, that is true until I have to debug some bug, at that time I miss the
> knowledge O:-)
> 
> >> Once told that, this don't matter for qemu migration, code is at
> >
> > Once, that was at the time where rubber boots were still made of wood,
> > right? :)
> 
> I forgot to add: "famous last words".
> 
> >> target/i386/kvm/kvm.c:kvm_arch_put_registers()
> >>
> >>
> >>     ret = kvm_put_xsave(x86_cpu);
> >>     if (ret < 0) {
> >>         return ret;
> >>     }
> >>     ret = kvm_put_xcrs(x86_cpu);
> >>     if (ret < 0) {
> >>         return ret;
> >>     }
> >>     /* must be before kvm_put_msrs */
> >>     ret = kvm_inject_mce_oldstyle(x86_cpu);
> >
> > So this has already ordering requirements.
> >
> >>     if (ret < 0) {
> >>         return ret;
> >>     }
> >>     ret = kvm_put_msrs(x86_cpu, level);
> >>     if (ret < 0) {
> >>         return ret;
> >>     }
> >>
> >> If it needs to be done in any other order, it is completely
> >> independent of whatever is inside the migration stream.
> >
> > From the migration data perspective that's correct, but I have the
> > nagging feeling that this in not that simple.
> 
> Oh, I was not meaning that it was simple at all.

It seems to be a consensus that the ordering constraint wouldn't be that easy.
Would you think that our current solution (the 3 parts shared earlier to do fpstate expansion at KVM_SET_XSAVE) is acceptable as the 1st version?

Thanks,
Wei

  reply	other threads:[~2021-12-15  2:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-12-14  2:50 [patch 0/6] x86/fpu: Preparatory changes for guest AMX support Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-14  2:50 ` [patch 1/6] x86/fpu: Extend fpu_xstate_prctl() with guest permissions Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-14  5:13   ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-14 10:37     ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-12-14  2:50 ` [patch 2/6] x86/fpu: Prepare guest FPU for dynamically enabled FPU features Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-14  2:50 ` [patch 3/6] x86/fpu: Make XFD initialization in __fpstate_reset() a function argument Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-14  2:50 ` [patch 4/6] x86/fpu: Add guest support to xfd_enable_feature() Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-14  6:05   ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-14 10:21     ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-12-14 13:15       ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-15  5:46         ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-15  9:53           ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-15 10:02             ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-14  2:50 ` [patch 5/6] x86/fpu: Provide fpu_update_guest_xcr0/xfd() Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-14  6:25   ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-14 15:09   ` Wang, Wei W
2021-12-14 15:40     ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-14 16:11       ` Wang, Wei W
2021-12-14 18:04         ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-14 19:07           ` Juan Quintela
2021-12-14 20:28             ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-14 21:35               ` Juan Quintela
2021-12-15  2:17                 ` Wang, Wei W [this message]
2021-12-15 10:09                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-15 10:27                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-12-15 10:41                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-12-16  1:00                         ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-16  5:36                         ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-16 21:07                           ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-12-16 10:21                         ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-16 10:24                           ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-12-16 10:26                           ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-12-16 13:00                         ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-16  1:04                       ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-16  9:34                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-16  9:59                           ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-16 14:12                             ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-17 15:33                               ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-15  6:14   ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-14  2:50 ` [patch 6/6] x86/fpu: Provide kvm_sync_guest_vmexit_xfd_state() Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-15  6:35   ` Liu, Jing2
2021-12-15  9:49     ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-14  6:50 ` [patch 0/6] x86/fpu: Preparatory changes for guest AMX support Tian, Kevin
2021-12-14  6:52 ` Liu, Jing2
2021-12-14  7:54   ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-14 10:42 ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-12-14 13:24   ` Thomas Gleixner

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