From: Stefano Garzarella <sgarzare@redhat.com>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, "Xuan Zhuo" <xuanzhuo@linux.alibaba.com>,
"Eugenio Pérez" <eperezma@redhat.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, "Simon Horman" <horms@kernel.org>,
"Paolo Abeni" <pabeni@redhat.com>,
"Jakub Kicinski" <kuba@kernel.org>,
"Jason Wang" <jasowang@redhat.com>,
kvm@vger.kernel.org, "Stefan Hajnoczi" <stefanha@redhat.com>,
virtualization@lists.linux.dev,
"Eric Dumazet" <edumazet@google.com>,
"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net v3 1/2] vsock/virtio: reset connection on receiving queue overflow
Date: Fri, 15 May 2026 11:06:42 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <agbg-pUhBRB89aEX@sgarzare-redhat> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260515043940-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org>
On Fri, May 15, 2026 at 04:57:41AM -0400, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
>On Fri, May 15, 2026 at 10:29:55AM +0200, Stefano Garzarella wrote:
>> On Thu, May 14, 2026 at 01:44:53PM -0400, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
>> > On Thu, May 14, 2026 at 06:45:00PM +0200, Stefano Garzarella wrote:
>> > > On Thu, 14 May 2026 at 17:16, Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com> wrote:
[...]
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > And so the bag of hacks grows. I feel this is energy not well spent.
>> > > > Please, let us fix this properly *first*. And then worry about how to
>> > > > backport. Maybe it will not be so terrible to backport after all.
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > > TBH I don't think this is an hack, but an issue we should fix in any case.
>> > > Regarding the second patch, I see your point, but it's a big change
>> > > that worries me. I'd like some more time to fix it properly without
>> > > rushing. Staying calm without realizing that userspace is broken like
>> > > we are now without this series :-(
>> > >
>> > > That said, evaluating further, I think we have a similar issue also
>> > > with STREAM on the host side where the skb usually doesn't free space,
>> > > so we need a merge strategy also there.
>> > >
>> > > So, I'd like to have time to fix both definitely. If you have time and
>> > > want to go ahead, please do.
>> > >
>> > > Thanks,
>> > > Stefano
>> >
>> > Well my patch was a start, we just need a strategy how to avoid copying
>> > everything, right?
>>
>> Yep, and then there's the question of how to handle EOM without a payload,
>> but I think that's a special case. In theory, we don't support sending it,
>> but I'm not sure if POSIX allows it or not.
>
>It seems to, but given we didn't allow it in the past, we probably
>should not start now without a good solution.
Agree.
>Really we should add a feature bit for EOM to steal a byte from
>buf_alloc. Or several bytes)
Yes, I agree. At this point, though, could we define a new protocol that
also takes overhead into account, or would it be too complicated to
synchronize both?
>
>> That said, is it okay if I send a v4 of this series?
>>
>> (I'm not sure if I'll be able to work on the merging next week)
>>
>> Stefano
>
>
>I do worry we are piling up hacks and we'll end up with races
>for all our troubles. That said, up to you.
>
I see it differently; Patch 1 should have been there from the start.
Patch 2, unless we completely remove the overhead, we should keep it, or
use it to trigger merging (e.g., when the overhead reaches a threshold
that depends on `buf_alloc`).
I prefer to send a v4.
Thanks,
Stefano
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-05-15 9:06 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-05-13 10:54 [PATCH net v3 0/2] vsock/virtio: fix skb overhead accounting to preserve full buf_alloc Stefano Garzarella
2026-05-13 10:54 ` [PATCH net v3 1/2] vsock/virtio: reset connection on receiving queue overflow Stefano Garzarella
2026-05-14 14:57 ` Stefano Garzarella
2026-05-14 15:16 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-05-14 16:45 ` Stefano Garzarella
2026-05-14 17:44 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-05-15 8:29 ` Stefano Garzarella
2026-05-15 8:57 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-05-15 9:06 ` Stefano Garzarella [this message]
2026-05-15 9:20 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-05-13 10:54 ` [PATCH net v3 2/2] vsock/virtio: fix skb overhead accounting to preserve full buf_alloc Stefano Garzarella
2026-05-14 14:44 ` Stefano Garzarella
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