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From: Lorenzo Stoakes <ljs@kernel.org>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
Cc: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>,  Alex Williamson <alex@shazbot.org>,
	Anthony Pighin <anthony.pighin@nokia.com>,
	 linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Kefeng Wang <wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org,  linux-mm@kvack.org,
	"Liam R. Howlett" <liam@infradead.org>,
	 Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] vfio: Request THP-aligned mmap for device fds
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2026 16:42:13 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ajlW-Lf_tSBMccw1@lucifer> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260619170705.GC1068655@ziepe.ca>

On Fri, Jun 19, 2026 at 02:07:05PM -0300, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 19, 2026 at 05:11:50PM +0100, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> > On Thu, Jun 18, 2026 at 12:28:05PM -0300, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > > On Thu, Jun 18, 2026 at 03:55:58PM +0100, Lorenzo Stoakes wrote:
> > > > Can't we figure this out from what the driver tells us when it invokes an
> > > > mmap_prepare action?
> > >
> > > VFIO installs the pages via fault handler so there is not a naturally
> > > existing way to pass in the pfn?
> >
> > Is there an advantage to doing it this way?  I understand why we (eg)
> > demand-page pagecache, that's obvious.  But I've never really understood
> > the advantage to taking page faults for PFNMAP areas where we don't
> > really do anything, just figure out which PFN needs to be installed.
> > It defers page table allocation, I suppose.
>
> VFIO has a model where the mapping can come and go, so it makes the
> entire VMA SIGBUS from time to time. The only way to do this currently
> is with faulting.
>
> The mm also had races around populating the mmap in the mmap callback
> and using zap on the inode, faulting avoids those too. Lorenzo may
> have fixed that with the new interface though

Well, you can't populate the mmap in .mmap_prepare, we do it for you.

I guess the issue there is an race with an rmap walker? I did add a (slightly
hideous) hack^Woption that keeps things rmap-locked until after the 'mmap
action' is complete (action->hold_rmap_lock).

So perhaps with that that issue is addressed?

I am figuring out new APIs for mmap_prepare as I carry on converting based on
what people are doing so I guess when I come to VFIO I can do the same thing
there.

>
> Jason

Thanks, Lorenzo

  reply	other threads:[~2026-06-22 15:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-06-16 18:01 [PATCH] vfio: Request THP-aligned mmap for device fds Anthony Pighin
2026-06-16 22:30 ` Alex Williamson
2026-06-17 14:21   ` Peter Xu
2026-06-17 18:34     ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-06-17 19:29       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-06-18 14:55         ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-18 15:04           ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-06-18 15:30             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-06-18 15:56               ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-19 13:16                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-06-22 16:54                   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-18 15:28           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-06-19 16:11             ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-06-19 17:07               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-06-22 15:42                 ` Lorenzo Stoakes [this message]
2026-06-22 15:44               ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-19 15:04           ` Ryan Roberts
2026-06-22 15:48             ` Lorenzo Stoakes

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