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From: Kiryl Shutsemau <kirill@shutemov.name>
To: Usama Arif <usama.arif@linux.dev>
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, rppt@kernel.org, peterx@redhat.com,
	 david@kernel.org, ljs@kernel.org, surenb@google.com,
	vbabka@kernel.org,  Liam.Howlett@oracle.com, ziy@nvidia.com,
	corbet@lwn.net, skhan@linuxfoundation.org,  seanjc@google.com,
	pbonzini@redhat.com, jthoughton@google.com, aarcange@redhat.com,
	 sj@kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	 linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org,  kernel-team@meta.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 11/15] mm/pagemap: add PAGE_IS_ACCESSED for RWP tracking
Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2026 14:52:42 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <akuy09U-g0AKSEfy@thinkstation> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260706125726.729431-1-usama.arif@linux.dev>

On Mon, Jul 06, 2026 at 05:57:24AM -0700, Usama Arif wrote:
> > @@ -2443,8 +2443,12 @@ static unsigned long pagemap_page_category(struct pagemap_scan_private *p,
> >  
> >  		categories = PAGE_IS_PRESENT;
> >  
> > -		if (!pte_uffd(pte))
> > -			categories |= PAGE_IS_WRITTEN;
> > +		if (!pte_uffd(pte)) {
> > +			if (userfaultfd_wp(vma))
> > +				categories |= PAGE_IS_WRITTEN;
> > +			if (userfaultfd_rwp(vma))
> > +				categories |= PAGE_IS_ACCESSED;
> > +		}
> 
> The above is an ABI change for existing PAGEMAP_SCAN users although not
> sure if there is someone that cares. Would below be a better alternative
> to limit the ABI change?
> 
> if (!pte_uffd(pte)) {
> 	if (userfaultfd_rwp(vma))
> 		categories |= PAGE_IS_ACCESSED;
> 	else
> 		categories |= PAGE_IS_WRITTEN;
> }

You're right that it changes what PAGEMAP_SCAN returns outside a
VM_UFFD_WP VMA. I think that is the intent rather than a side effect --
the commit message calls it out explicitly as a UAPI narrowing.

PAGE_IS_WRITTEN is documented as "Page has been written to from the time
it was write protected". Outside a write-protected VMA there is no such
point in time, so the flag has no defined meaning there -- and the
current code sets it unconditionally on every present, non-uffd PTE,
which makes it a constant duplicate of PAGE_IS_PRESENT. A caller cannot
use it to tell written pages from merely-present ones.

Scoping it to VM_UFFD_WP makes the bit mean what it is documented to
mean. A consumer that read PAGE_IS_WRITTEN on a non-WP range was reading
a value that never carried write information, so I don't think there is a
meaningful user to regress.

And in the unlikely event an actual user turns up that depends on the
current behaviour, we can always switch to your else-form -- it is a
small change and keeps the old value.

-- 
  Kiryl Shutsemau / Kirill A. Shutemov

  reply	other threads:[~2026-07-06 13:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-07-06  8:47 [PATCH v9 00/15] userfaultfd: working set tracking for VM guest memory Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-07-06  8:47 ` [PATCH v9 01/15] mm: decouple protnone helpers from CONFIG_NUMA_BALANCING Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-07-06  8:47 ` [PATCH v9 02/15] mm: rename uffd-wp PTE bit macros to uffd Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-07-06  8:47 ` [PATCH v9 03/15] mm: rename uffd-wp PTE accessors " Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-07-06  8:47 ` [PATCH v9 04/15] userfaultfd: test uffd VMA flags through the vma_flags_t API Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-07-06  8:47 ` [PATCH v9 05/15] mm: add VM_UFFD_RWP VMA flag Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-07-06  8:47 ` [PATCH v9 06/15] mm: add MM_CP_UFFD_RWP change_protection() flag Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-07-06  8:47 ` [PATCH v9 07/15] mm: preserve RWP marker across PTE rewrites Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-07-06  9:20   ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-06  8:47 ` [PATCH v9 08/15] mm: handle VM_UFFD_RWP in khugepaged, rmap, and GUP Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-07-06  8:47 ` [PATCH v9 09/15] userfaultfd: add UFFDIO_REGISTER_MODE_RWP and UFFDIO_RWPROTECT plumbing Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-07-06  9:06   ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-06  8:47 ` [PATCH v9 10/15] mm/userfaultfd: add RWP fault delivery and expose UFFDIO_REGISTER_MODE_RWP Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-07-06  9:22   ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-06  8:48 ` [PATCH v9 11/15] mm/pagemap: add PAGE_IS_ACCESSED for RWP tracking Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-07-06  9:15   ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-06 12:57   ` Usama Arif
2026-07-06 13:52     ` Kiryl Shutsemau [this message]
2026-07-06  8:48 ` [PATCH v9 12/15] userfaultfd: add UFFD_FEATURE_RWP_ASYNC for async fault resolution Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-07-06  8:48 ` [PATCH v9 13/15] userfaultfd: add UFFDIO_SET_MODE for runtime sync/async toggle Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-07-06  9:20   ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-06  8:48 ` [PATCH v9 14/15] selftests/mm: add userfaultfd RWP tests Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-07-06  9:19   ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-06 10:49   ` [PATCH v9.1 " Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-07-06  8:48 ` [PATCH v9 15/15] Documentation/userfaultfd: document RWP working set tracking Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-07-06 10:56 ` Addressing Sashiko AI review Kiryl Shutsemau

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