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From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: Luka Absandze <absandze@amazon.de>
Cc: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	 "kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	 "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	 "linux-doc@vger.kernel.org" <linux-doc@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Graf (AWS), Alexander" <graf@amazon.de>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/2] KVM: x86/pmu: Let userspace disable SW accounting of emulated instructions
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2026 10:49:11 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <al-xF6G4W6uEikao@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <al-szwXKRbdGYv49@dev-dsk-absandze-1c-663c31a8.eu-west-1.amazon.com>

On Tue, Jul 21, 2026, Luka Absandze wrote:
> On 2026-07-21 09:47, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> > Hmm, yeah, that'd be better than ignoring emulated instruction entirely, and
> > would give userspace far better control over how shoddy KVM's emulation is.  Off
> > the cuff, the change would be fairly trivial too?  E.g.
> > 
> > diff --git arch/x86/kvm/pmu.c arch/x86/kvm/pmu.c
> > index 7f777049d328..c5f436c6f83f 100644
> > --- arch/x86/kvm/pmu.c
> > +++ arch/x86/kvm/pmu.c
> > @@ -1084,7 +1084,8 @@ static void kvm_pmu_incr_counter(struct kvm_pmc *pmc)
> >          */
> >         if (!kvm_vcpu_has_mediated_pmu(vcpu)) {
> >                 pmc->emulated_counter++;
> > -               kvm_pmu_request_counter_reprogram(pmc);
> > +               if (pmc->emulated_counter > pmu_something_something_tolerance)
> > +                       kvm_pmu_request_counter_reprogram(pmc);
> >                 return;
> >         }
> 
> I believe this is fine, but perhaps the tolerance itself could be a knob

Ya, I was envisioning a knob.

> with <0 meaning no reprogram?

Eh, I don't see a need to assign special meaning to <0.  Make it a u32 (or u64),
and then a large value will provide the same behavior in practice, without needing
special handling in KVM.

> While the contention on this path will be much lower, we are still
> introducing more steal time, and the added accuracy is probably not worth
> even that for guests who really only care for the rate of change, rather than
> exact instruction counts.

      reply	other threads:[~2026-07-21 17:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-07-20 19:22 [RFC PATCH 0/2] KVM: x86/pmu: Let userspace disable SW accounting of emulated instructions Luka Absandze
2026-07-20 19:22 ` [RFC PATCH 1/2] KVM: x86/pmu: Add CAP to " Luka Absandze
2026-07-20 22:27   ` Sean Christopherson
2026-07-21  7:33     ` David Woodhouse
2026-07-21 16:53       ` Sean Christopherson
2026-07-21 19:43         ` David Woodhouse
2026-07-20 19:22 ` [RFC PATCH 2/2] KVM: Documentation: Document KVM_CAP_X86_DISABLE_PMU_SW_ACCOUNTING Luka Absandze
2026-07-21  7:32 ` [RFC PATCH 0/2] KVM: x86/pmu: Let userspace disable SW accounting of emulated instructions David Woodhouse
2026-07-21 16:47   ` Sean Christopherson
2026-07-21 16:55     ` David Woodhouse
2026-07-21 17:05       ` Sean Christopherson
2026-07-21 17:32     ` Absandze, Luka
2026-07-21 17:49       ` Sean Christopherson [this message]

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