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From: Gregory Price <gourry@gourry.net>
To: SJ Park <sj@kernel.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 14/36] mm/damon: skip private node memory in DAMON migration and pageout
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2026 23:25:15 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <amGHuputMNCFZ9CV@gourry-fedora-PF4VCD3F> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260723001943.95854-1-sj@kernel.org>

On Wed, Jul 22, 2026 at 05:19:42PM -0700, SJ Park wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Jul 2026 08:16:56 -0400 Gregory Price <gourry@gourry.net> wrote:
> 
> > > "by default".  Does that mean it could be reclaimable in some situations?  If
> > > so, could we check if it is reclaimable?
> > > 
> > 
> > See the damon changes in:
> > 
> > https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/al-pkvmgIxGu3LzM@gourry-fedora-PF4VCD3F/T/#mfb99303c85dd9d4c3f58832dc28fc55583a7217a
> 
> Summarizing what you want to say, quoting something from the patch, or at least
> calling it "26th patch of this series" would have made reviewing much easier.
> Cc-ing damon@ for only patches that toucing DAMON source files and the cover
> letter of the series could also be helpful.  Please consider doing some of
> these for future replies.
> 

I have been very much discouraged from this kind of trimming because it
removes the context of the series from the individual patches - making it
even more confusing.

But I understand, I will try to remember to do this for you.

> So, I understand later patches will make it optionally reclaimable and update
> this restriction by the 26th patch?  That sounds fair.  But, could we drop "by
> default" from the above comment for reducing the confusion?

Yes, but you bring up a good point - I think this two-step process is
actually poor form and that I need to redo it.

Maybe this can be redone as node states (features?) such as:

   N_MEMORY_RECLAIMABLE
   N_MEMORY_DEMOTABLE
   N_MEMORY_TIERABLE

so these damon changes will forego this confusing intermediate step of:

   if (folio_is_private_node(folio))

and go straight to

   if (node_is_reclaimable(folio_nid(folio)))

In the first patch - without ever having to revisit damon again.

> > 
> > Technically there is nothing in migration core to prevent migration
> > operations, it's done on a service basis - hotunplug, reclaim/demotion,
> > user numa (mbind, migrate/move_pages) etc.
> > 
> > Operations on private nodes/private node folioes are refused if the
> > capability bit is not set.
> 
> I haven't had a chance to read the entire series, sorry about that.  So, do you
> mean the above blocking is not really needed, or that will conditionally be
> allowed by another later patch?
> 

I will reduce this all to a single patch in v6, I see where things can
be improved now based on a few pieces of feedback.

Thanks SJ!
~Gregory

  reply	other threads:[~2026-07-23  3:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2026-07-20 19:33 ` [PATCH v5 00/36] Private Memory NUMA Nodes Gregory Price
2026-07-20 19:33   ` [PATCH v5 01/36] mm: refactor find_next_best_node to find_next_best_node_in Gregory Price
2026-07-21  5:46     ` Balbir Singh
2026-07-20 19:33   ` [PATCH v5 02/36] mm/page_alloc: refactor build_node_zonelist() out of build_zonelists() Gregory Price
2026-07-20 19:33   ` [PATCH v5 03/36] mm/page_alloc: let the bulk and folio allocators carry alloc_flags Gregory Price
2026-07-21 18:26     ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-20 19:33   ` [PATCH v5 04/36] numa: introduce N_MEMORY_PRIVATE Gregory Price
2026-07-21 18:18     ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-20 19:33   ` [PATCH v5 05/36] mm: add ZONELIST_PRIVATE(_NOFALLBACK) for N_MEMORY_PRIVATE nodes Gregory Price
2026-07-22 13:00     ` Richard Cheng
2026-07-22 13:19       ` Gregory Price
2026-07-20 19:34   ` [PATCH v5 06/36] cpuset: exclude private nodes from cpuset.mems (default-open) Gregory Price
2026-07-21 18:22     ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-20 19:34   ` [PATCH v5 07/36] mm/memory_hotplug: disallow migration-driven private node hotunplug Gregory Price
2026-07-20 19:34   ` [PATCH v5 08/36] mm/mempolicy: skip private node folios when queueing for migration Gregory Price
2026-07-21 18:22     ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-20 19:34   ` [PATCH v5 09/36] mm/migrate: disallow userland driven migration for private nodes Gregory Price
2026-07-21 18:32     ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-20 19:34   ` [PATCH v5 10/36] mm/madvise: disallow madvise operations on private node folios Gregory Price
2026-07-21 18:30     ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-20 19:34   ` [PATCH v5 11/36] mm/compaction: disallow compaction on private nodes Gregory Price
2026-07-21 18:22     ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-20 19:34   ` [PATCH v5 12/36] mm/page_alloc: clear private node watermarks and system reserves Gregory Price
2026-07-20 19:34   ` [PATCH v5 13/36] mm/mempolicy: disallow NUMA Balancing prot_none on private nodes Gregory Price
2026-07-20 19:34   ` [PATCH v5 14/36] mm/damon: skip private node memory in DAMON migration and pageout Gregory Price
2026-07-21 18:18     ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-21 23:46     ` SJ Park
2026-07-22 12:16       ` Gregory Price
2026-07-23  0:19         ` SJ Park
2026-07-23  3:25           ` Gregory Price [this message]
2026-07-20 19:34   ` [PATCH v5 15/36] mm/ksm: skip KSM for managed-memory folios Gregory Price
2026-07-20 19:34   ` [PATCH v5 16/36] mm/khugepaged: skip private node folios when trying to collapse Gregory Price
2026-07-21 18:36     ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-20 19:34   ` [PATCH v5 17/36] mm/vmscan: disallow reclaim of private node memory Gregory Price
2026-07-21 18:35     ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-20 19:34   ` [PATCH v5 18/36] mm/gup: disallow longterm pin of private node folios Gregory Price
2026-07-20 19:34   ` [PATCH v5 19/36] proc: include N_MEMORY_PRIVATE nodes in numa_maps output Gregory Price
2026-07-21 18:30     ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-20 19:34   ` [PATCH v5 20/36] mm/memcontrol: account private-node memory in per-node stats Gregory Price
2026-07-21 18:33     ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-20 19:34   ` [PATCH v5 21/36] proc/kcore: include private-node RAM in the kcore RAM map Gregory Price
2026-07-20 20:05     ` Omar Sandoval
2026-07-20 19:34   ` [PATCH v5 22/36] mm/mempolicy: add MPOL_F_PRIVATE and zonelist selection Gregory Price
2026-07-21 19:28     ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-20 19:34   ` [PATCH v5 23/36] mm/mempolicy: apply policy at the kernel zone for private-node binds Gregory Price
2026-07-21 19:39     ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-20 19:34   ` [PATCH v5 24/36] mm/mempolicy: add in-kernel MPOL_BIND interfaces for drivers/services Gregory Price
2026-07-21 18:36     ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-20 19:34   ` [PATCH v5 25/36] mm/memory_hotplug: support N_MEMORY_PRIVATE node hotplug Gregory Price
2026-07-21 18:33     ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-20 19:34   ` [PATCH v5 26/36] mm: add NODE_PRIVATE_CAP_RECLAIM for opted-in private node reclaim Gregory Price
2026-07-21 20:02     ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-22 13:36     ` Richard Cheng
2026-07-22 13:48       ` Gregory Price
2026-07-20 19:34   ` [PATCH v5 27/36] mm: add NODE_PRIVATE_CAP_USER_NUMA for userland numa controls Gregory Price
2026-07-21 20:13     ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-20 19:34   ` [PATCH v5 28/36] mm: add NODE_PRIVATE_CAP_HOTUNPLUG for opted-in private nodes Gregory Price
2026-07-22 14:04     ` Gregory Price
2026-07-20 19:34   ` [PATCH v5 29/36] mm: add NODE_PRIVATE_CAP_DEMOTION for private-node tiering demotion Gregory Price
2026-07-21 20:28     ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-20 19:34   ` [PATCH v5 30/36] mm: add NODE_PRIVATE_CAP_NUMA_BALANCING for private-node NUMA balancing Gregory Price
2026-07-20 19:34   ` [PATCH v5 31/36] mm: add NODE_PRIVATE_CAP_LTPIN for private node folio pinning Gregory Price
2026-07-20 19:34   ` [PATCH v5 32/36] mm/khugepaged: base private node collapse eligiblity on actor/cap bits Gregory Price
2026-07-21 20:49     ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-22 13:24     ` Richard Cheng
2026-07-22 13:43       ` Gregory Price
2026-07-20 19:34   ` [PATCH v5 33/36] Documentation/mm: describe private (N_MEMORY_PRIVATE) memory nodes Gregory Price
2026-07-20 19:34   ` [PATCH v5 34/36] mm/mempolicy: add mpol_set_shared_policy_range() Gregory Price
2026-07-20 19:34   ` [PATCH v5 35/36] KVM: guest_memfd: bind backing memory to a NUMA node at creation Gregory Price
2026-07-21 21:11     ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-21  3:46   ` [PATCH v5 00/36] Private Memory NUMA Nodes Balbir Singh
2026-07-21 18:16     ` Gregory Price
2026-07-22  8:29       ` Balbir Singh
2026-07-22 12:28         ` Gregory Price
2026-07-21 13:26   ` Zenghui Yu
2026-07-21 17:18     ` Gregory Price
2026-07-22 14:20   ` Richard Cheng
2026-07-22 15:40     ` Gregory Price
2026-07-22 20:56       ` Gregory Price
2026-07-23  8:38   ` Arun George/Arun George

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