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From: Chao Gao <chao.gao@intel.com>
To: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>
Cc: <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-coco@lists.linux.dev>,
	<kvm@vger.kernel.org>, <rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com>,
	<kas@kernel.org>, <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 1/8] x86/virt/tdx: Stop treating tdx_global_metadata.h as auto-generated
Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2026 20:06:55 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <anMnX5Zcje0vAxNf@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <43bb043e-8a01-484e-905b-41c73ae835d3@intel.com>

>> Today the header that holds these structures is generated by an
>> out-of-tree script from a JSON file listing all of the TDX module's
>> metadata.  That made it trivial to add a new field, but everything
>> else suffered for it:
>> 
>>   - The header is opaque to anyone who doesn't have the script and
>>     the JSON file handy, and the "Automatically generated" tag tells
>>     reviewers their edits will be clobbered.
>>   - The script ships outside the tree, so reproducing changes
>>     requires fetching it from a mailing list link.
>>   - The structures are short and stable; the script's value over
>>     a hand-edited header is small.
>
>Well, and the big one: after we started doing this, the "ABI Definitions
>for Intel® TDX" was declared to be not an ABI. So, even if we code to
>the JSON, there's no guarantee the JSON will be stable.
>
><sigh>
>
>Honestly that's what matters. The script and all the other fluff is just
>noise.

Thanks for this. So the key point is that auto-generating rests on a
premise: the JSON is the ABI and stays stable. Then regenerating gives
you something you can trust without re-checking. That premise isn't true
now, so we should stop auto-generating.

One thing I'd like to confirm: is the concern that the JSON could be wrong
about what modules actually implement, or just that there's no commitment
to keep the JSON stable? or both?

>
>> Signed-off-by: Chao Gao <chao.gao@intel.com>
>
>So, I'm curious: What made you feel OK to sign-off on this? I'm not
>judging. I'm open-minded on this. All I know is *I* wasn't ready to
>sign-off on this.
>
>I really want to know what your thought process was.

The idea and the implementation looks good to me, and I thought they were
ready for on-list review.  As the person who modified and posted the
series, my reading of submitting-patches.rst is that I need to sign off
_any_ patches I posted.

  reply	other threads:[~2026-08-05 12:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-08-04 11:29 [PATCH v1 0/8] TDX: Stop auto-generating the global metadata code Chao Gao
2026-08-04 11:29 ` [PATCH v1 1/8] x86/virt/tdx: Stop treating tdx_global_metadata.h as auto-generated Chao Gao
2026-08-04 23:43   ` Dave Hansen
2026-08-05 12:06     ` Chao Gao [this message]
2026-08-05 15:26       ` Dave Hansen
2026-08-04 11:29 ` [PATCH v1 2/8] x86/virt/tdx: Name the TDX module global metadata field IDs Chao Gao
2026-08-04 23:52   ` Dave Hansen
2026-08-05 12:45     ` Chao Gao
2026-08-05 17:10   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-08-04 11:29 ` [PATCH v1 3/8] x86/virt/tdx: Add a table-driven TDX global metadata reader Chao Gao
2026-08-05 17:48   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-08-04 11:29 ` [PATCH v1 4/8] x86/virt/tdx: Convert version/tdmr/td_ctrl/handoff readers Chao Gao
2026-08-04 11:29 ` [PATCH v1 5/8] x86/virt/tdx: Convert td_conf reader Chao Gao
2026-08-04 11:29 ` [PATCH v1 6/8] x86/virt/tdx: Remove the auto-generated tdx_global_metadata.c Chao Gao
2026-08-04 11:29 ` [PATCH v1 7/8] x86/virt/tdx: Clean up error handling in get_tdx_sys_info() Chao Gao
2026-08-04 11:29 ` [PATCH v1 8/8] x86/virt/tdx: Verify the C member size against the metadata field ID Chao Gao
2026-08-04 23:38 ` [PATCH v1 0/8] TDX: Stop auto-generating the global metadata code Dave Hansen
2026-08-05 12:11   ` Chao Gao
2026-08-05 17:19 ` Edgecombe, Rick P

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