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From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: Xiaoyao Li <xiaoyao.li@intel.com>
Cc: Rick P Edgecombe <rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com>,
	 "sashiko-reviews@lists.linux.dev"
	<sashiko-reviews@lists.linux.dev>,
	 "pbonzini@redhat.com" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 3/4] KVM: TDX: Don't assume exit_reason[31:16] as all-0 in tdx_to_vmx_exit_reason()
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2026 13:18:50 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aoS-Kqz7lwt1baqg@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8c121997-6673-4d5b-927e-be74b5779059@intel.com>

On Tue, Aug 18, 2026, Xiaoyao Li wrote:
> On 8/18/2026 2:19 AM, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> > On Mon, Aug 17, 2026, Xiaoyao Li wrote:
> > > On 8/14/2026 11:12 PM, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> > > > > > And once we track the exit_reason separately from vp_enter_ret, IMO it all becomes
> > > > > > more logical and easier to follow.  vp_enter_ret holds the information about why
> > > > > > VP.ENTER returned/exited, while exit_reason holds information about why the _guest_
> > > > > > exited.  Obviously it's imperfect since we're still fudging EXIT_REASON_EPT_MISCONFIG,
> > > > > > but again, I think that's a better alternative than demuxing exit_reason in multiple
> > > > > > locations.
> > > > > 
> > > > > The question do we really need to swizzle EXIT_REASON_TDCALL to other exit
> > > > > reasons ahead? why cannot them just be handled in the central handler for
> > > > > EXIT_REASON_TDCALL?
> > > > 
> > > > Because as above, it's not as central as you think.  If we want to not swizzle
> > > > the exit_reason, then IMO the only sane way to do that is to not track exit_reason
> > > > for TDX vCPUs, i.e. move vcpu_vt.exit_reason back to vcpu_vmx and force TDX to
> > > > always demux vp_enter_ret every time.
> > > 
> > > How about adding a specific field to track the TDVMCALL leaf? Full diff as
> > > below (the EPT MISCONFIG part can be split into a separate one)
> > 
> > I like it even less than demuxing vp_enter_ret on demand.  It has all the same
> > flaws as demuxing vp_enter_ret, because it's effectively just a cache of the
> > result of demuxing vp_enter_ret.  And caching values on entry/exit boundaries
> > adds additional risk;  I can point you at a number of bugs in the past where KVM
> > consumed stale data, e.g. because some chunk of code got moved to run before a
> > cached field was refreshed.  That's unlikekly to be a problem here, but anytime
> > data is cached it introduces risk of consuming stale data.
> > 
> > And the cost of demuxing vp_enter_ret every time doesn't concern me, at all.
> > What I don't like is relying on call sites to know that the exit_reason needs to
> > be demuxed in the first place, because that will be brittle and error prone.
> 
> Do you mean that with my diff, the consumers of tdx_is_tdvmcall() rely on
> handle_tdcall() being called already?

That's one of my concerns, but it's not my biggest concern.  What I'm most worried
about is providing what is effectively an incomplete vcpu_vt.exit_reason, relative
to how vcpu_vt.exit_reason has been handled by KVM for years, and still is handled
by VMX.  It essentially violates the principle of least surprise: years of experience
and huge swaths of the code base will result in developers expecting exit_reason to
be _the_ source of truth.

There are obviously cases where additional state needs to be queried to handle the
exit, e.g. most visibly in handle_tdvmcall().  The big difference is that
handle_tdvmcall() only deals with "new", TDX-specific functionality, and it's
analgous to kvm_emulate_hypercall(), i.e. it behaves pretty much how the majority
of developers would expect it to behave.

> If so, I get your point.
> 
> > That's why I'd be ok if vcpu_vt.exit_reason simply didn't exist: it becomes
> > impossible to check the wrong exit field because there's only one such field.
> > 
> > I'm ok caching the fully processed vcpu_vt.exit_reason, i.e. with the code now,
> > because only the TDVMCALL path needs to be aware that it may have undergone
> > processing, *and* KVM can WARN if that processing didn't happen as expected.
> > 
> > Whereas checking the "right" exit reason requires doing so in multiple paths and
> > doesn't have a natural sanity check.
> 
> I'm OK with it.
> 
> After changing to use tdx_is_exit_reason_valid() instead of checking
> (*reason != -1u) in tdx_get_exit_info(), the only issue is trace_kvm_exit()
> prints 0x0000ffff when real EPT MISCONFIG happens. But it can be resolved by
> your suggestion below. So current implementation can still work.

Yep, that's one of the reasons why I don't want to overwrite the exit reason.

  reply	other threads:[~2026-08-18 20:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-08-12  8:02 [PATCH v3 0/4] KVM: TDX: Enable VM-DoS Prevention Features for TDX Xiaoyao Li
2026-08-12  8:02 ` [PATCH v3 1/4] KVM: TDX: Enable Notify VM exit Xiaoyao Li
2026-08-12  8:02 ` [PATCH v3 2/4] KVM: TDX: Set bits 31:16 to 0 for the synthesized Exit Reason Xiaoyao Li
2026-08-12 21:58   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-08-12  8:02 ` [PATCH v3 3/4] KVM: TDX: Don't assume exit_reason[31:16] as all-0 in tdx_to_vmx_exit_reason() Xiaoyao Li
2026-08-12  8:23   ` sashiko-bot
2026-08-12  9:07     ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-08-12 22:55       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-08-13 23:44         ` Sean Christopherson
2026-08-14  1:02           ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-08-14 15:12             ` Sean Christopherson
2026-08-17  2:49               ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-08-17 18:19                 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-08-18  8:14                   ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-08-18 20:18                     ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2026-08-13  0:14       ` Sean Christopherson
2026-08-13  8:42         ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-08-12  8:02 ` [PATCH v3 4/4] KVM: TDX: Enable Bus Lock VM exit Xiaoyao Li
2026-08-12  8:20   ` sashiko-bot
2026-08-12  9:11     ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-08-13  0:06       ` Sean Christopherson
2026-08-12 22:58   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-08-13 11:17     ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-08-13 14:43       ` Sean Christopherson
2026-08-14  0:49         ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-08-14 15:46           ` Sean Christopherson
2026-08-15 13:28             ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-08-17 18:06               ` Sean Christopherson
2026-08-18  7:47                 ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-08-18 16:17                   ` Sean Christopherson

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