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From: "Edgecombe, Rick P" <rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com>
To: "Bae, Chang Seok" <chang.seok.bae@intel.com>
Cc: "ebiggers@google.com" <ebiggers@google.com>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Hansen, Dave" <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	"dave.hansen@linux.intel.com" <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	"Spassov, Stanislav" <stanspas@amazon.de>,
	"levymitchell0@gmail.com" <levymitchell0@gmail.com>,
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	"Li, Xin3" <xin3.li@intel.com>,
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	"peterz@infradead.org" <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"aruna.ramakrishna@oracle.com" <aruna.ramakrishna@oracle.com>,
	"Gao, Chao" <chao.gao@intel.com>, "bp@alien8.de" <bp@alien8.de>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 3/7] x86/fpu/xstate: Differentiate default features for host and guest FPUs
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2025 15:33:23 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b1f5bcc441b74bef6efe91da1055a3a4efe13613.camel@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <281354d3-1f04-483d-a6d0-baf6fdcec376@intel.com>

On Wed, 2025-04-30 at 08:01 -0700, Chang S. Bae wrote:
> On 4/28/2025 8:36 PM, Edgecombe, Rick P wrote:
> > 
> > KVM_GET_XSAVE is part of KVM's API. It uses fields configured in struct
> > fpu_guest. If fpu_user_cfg.default_features changes value (in the current code)
> > it would change KVM's uABI. 
> 
> Not quite. The ABI reflects the XSAVE format directly. The XSAVE header 
> indicates which feature states are present, so while the _contents_ of 
> the buffer may vary depending on the feature set, the _format_ itself 
> remains unchanged. That doesn't constitute a uABI change.

Heh, ok sure.

> 
> > It should be simple. Two new configuration fields are added in this patch that
> > match the existing concept and values of existing configurations fields. Per
> > Sean, there are no plans to have them diverge. So why add them. 
> 
> I'm fine with dropping them -- as long as the resulting code remains 
> clear and avoids unnecessary complexity around VCPU allocation.
> 
> Here are some of the considerations that led me to suggest them in the 
> first place:
> 
>   * The guest-only feature model should be established in a clean and
>     structured way.
>   * The initialization logic should stay explicit -- especially to make
>     it clear what constitutes guest features, even when they match host
>     features. That naturally led to introducing a dedicated data
>     structure.
>   * Since the VCPU FPU container includes struct fpstate, it felt
>     appropriate to mirror relevant fields where useful.
>   * Including user_size and user_xfeatures made the VCPU allocation logic
>     more straightforward and self-contained.
> 
> And to clarify -- this addition doesn’t necessarily imply divergence 
> from fpu_guest_cfg. Its usage is local to setting up the guest fpstate, 
> and nothing more.

I'd like to close this out. I see there there is currently one concept of user
features and size, and per Sean, KVM intends to stay consistent with the rest of
the kernel - leaving it at one concept. This was new info since you suggested
the fields. So why don't you propose a resolution here and we'll just go with
it.

  reply	other threads:[~2025-04-30 15:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-04-10  7:24 [PATCH v5 0/7] Introduce CET supervisor state support Chao Gao
2025-04-10  7:24 ` [PATCH v5 1/7] x86/fpu/xstate: Always preserve non-user xfeatures/flags in __state_perm Chao Gao
2025-04-18 20:50   ` Chang S. Bae
2025-04-10  7:24 ` [PATCH v5 2/7] x86/fpu: Drop @perm from guest pseudo FPU container Chao Gao
2025-04-18 20:51   ` Chang S. Bae
2025-04-18 20:54     ` Chang S. Bae
2025-04-19  1:01     ` Chao Gao
2025-04-10  7:24 ` [PATCH v5 3/7] x86/fpu/xstate: Differentiate default features for host and guest FPUs Chao Gao
2025-04-24 22:52   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-04-25  8:24     ` Chao Gao
2025-04-25 16:09       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-04-25 23:48         ` Sean Christopherson
2025-04-28  3:26           ` Chao Gao
2025-04-28  7:44             ` Xin Li
2025-04-28 14:28             ` Sean Christopherson
2025-04-28  6:31           ` Xin Li
2025-04-28 15:42           ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-04-29  1:11             ` Chang S. Bae
2025-04-29  2:50               ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-04-29  3:22                 ` Chang S. Bae
2025-04-29  3:36                   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-04-30  3:27                     ` Chao Gao
2025-04-30 15:01                     ` Chang S. Bae
2025-04-30 15:33                       ` Edgecombe, Rick P [this message]
2025-04-30 16:20                         ` Sean Christopherson
2025-04-30 18:26                           ` Chang S. Bae
2025-04-28  5:51         ` Xin Li
2025-04-28  6:12           ` Xin Li
2025-05-01 14:24   ` Chang S. Bae
2025-05-06  3:29     ` Chao Gao
2025-04-10  7:24 ` [PATCH v5 4/7] x86/fpu: Initialize guest FPU permissions from guest defaults Chao Gao
2025-04-30 15:45   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-04-10  7:24 ` [PATCH v5 5/7] x86/fpu: Initialize guest fpstate and FPU pseudo container " Chao Gao
2025-04-30 18:29   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-05-01 14:24     ` Chang S. Bae
2025-05-06  3:33       ` Chao Gao
2025-04-10  7:24 ` [PATCH v5 6/7] x86/fpu/xstate: Introduce "guest-only" supervisor xfeature set Chao Gao
2025-04-24 22:58   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-04-10  7:24 ` [PATCH v5 7/7] x86/fpu/xstate: Add CET supervisor xfeature support as a guest-only feature Chao Gao
2025-04-24 23:28 ` [PATCH v5 0/7] Introduce CET supervisor state support Edgecombe, Rick P

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