From: "Edgecombe, Rick P" <rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com>
To: "thomas.lendacky@amd.com" <thomas.lendacky@amd.com>,
"john.allen@amd.com" <john.allen@amd.com>
Cc: "Gao, Chao" <chao.gao@intel.com>,
"seanjc@google.com" <seanjc@google.com>,
"Li, Xiaoyao" <xiaoyao.li@intel.com>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"minipli@grsecurity.net" <minipli@grsecurity.net>,
"mlevitsk@redhat.com" <mlevitsk@redhat.com>,
"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
"pbonzini@redhat.com" <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v15 29/41] KVM: SEV: Synchronize MSR_IA32_XSS from the GHCB when it's valid
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2025 17:29:27 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <bb3256d7c5ee2e84e26d71570db25b05ada8a59f.camel@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2661794f-748d-422a-b381-6577ee2729ee@amd.com>
On Fri, 2025-09-19 at 08:40 -0500, Tom Lendacky wrote:
> Likely something to do with the encryption bit since, if set, will
> generate an invalid address in 32-bit, right?
But the SSP is a virtual address and c-bit is a physical thing.
>
> For SEV-ES, we transition to 64-bit very quickly because of the use of the
> encryption bit, which is why, for example, we don't support SEV-ES /
> SEV-SNP in the OvmfIa32X64.dsc package.
This sounds like it's about the lack of ability to set the c-bit in the page
table, rather than having the C-bit set in a virtual address. In compatibility
mode you are not using 32 bit page tables, so the C-bit should be available like
normal I think. Not an expert in 32 bit/compatibility mode though.
More background on this test/behavior: During the tail end of the shadow stack
enabling, there was a concern raised that we didn't un-support 32 bit shadow
stack cleanly enough. We blocked it from being allowed in 32 bit apps, but
nothing stopped an app from enabling it in 64 bit an then switching to 32 bit
mode without the kernel getting a chance to block it. The simplest, get-it-done
type solution was to just not allocate shadow stacks in the space where they
could be usable in 32 bit mode and let the HW catch it.
But the whole point is just to not allow 32 bit mode CET. Sounds like SEV-ES
covers this another way - don't support 32 bit at all. I wonder if we should
just patch the test to skip the 32 bit test on coco VMs?
PS, we don't support CET on TDX currently even though it doesn't require
everything in this series, but I just remembered (forehead slap) that on the way
upstream the extra CET-TDX exclusion got pulled out. After this series, it would
be allowed in TDX guests as well. So we need to do the same testing in TDX. Let
me see how the test goes in TDX and get back to you.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-09-19 17:29 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 130+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-09-12 23:22 [PATCH v15 00/41] KVM: x86: Mega-CET Sean Christopherson
2025-09-12 23:22 ` [PATCH v15 01/41] KVM: SEV: Rename kvm_ghcb_get_sw_exit_code() to kvm_get_cached_sw_exit_code() Sean Christopherson
2025-09-15 16:15 ` Tom Lendacky
2025-09-15 16:30 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-09-12 23:22 ` [PATCH v15 02/41] KVM: SEV: Read save fields from GHCB exactly once Sean Christopherson
2025-09-15 17:32 ` Tom Lendacky
2025-09-15 21:08 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-09-17 21:47 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-09-12 23:22 ` [PATCH v15 03/41] KVM: SEV: Validate XCR0 provided by guest in GHCB Sean Christopherson
2025-09-15 18:41 ` Tom Lendacky
2025-09-15 21:22 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-09-12 23:22 ` [PATCH v15 04/41] KVM: x86: Introduce KVM_{G,S}ET_ONE_REG uAPIs support Sean Christopherson
2025-09-15 6:29 ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-09-16 7:10 ` Binbin Wu
2025-09-17 13:14 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-09-12 23:22 ` [PATCH v15 05/41] KVM: x86: Report XSS as to-be-saved if there are supported features Sean Christopherson
2025-09-16 7:12 ` Binbin Wu
2025-09-12 23:22 ` [PATCH v15 06/41] KVM: x86: Check XSS validity against guest CPUIDs Sean Christopherson
2025-09-16 7:20 ` Binbin Wu
2025-09-12 23:22 ` [PATCH v15 07/41] KVM: x86: Refresh CPUID on write to guest MSR_IA32_XSS Sean Christopherson
2025-09-16 7:23 ` Binbin Wu
2025-09-12 23:22 ` [PATCH v15 08/41] KVM: x86: Initialize kvm_caps.supported_xss Sean Christopherson
2025-09-16 7:29 ` Binbin Wu
2025-09-12 23:22 ` [PATCH v15 09/41] KVM: x86: Load guest FPU state when access XSAVE-managed MSRs Sean Christopherson
2025-09-15 17:04 ` Xin Li
2025-09-16 6:51 ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-09-16 8:28 ` Binbin Wu
2025-09-17 2:51 ` Binbin Wu
2025-09-17 12:47 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-09-17 21:56 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-09-12 23:22 ` [PATCH v15 10/41] KVM: x86: Add fault checks for guest CR4.CET setting Sean Christopherson
2025-09-16 8:33 ` Binbin Wu
2025-09-12 23:22 ` [PATCH v15 11/41] KVM: x86: Report KVM supported CET MSRs as to-be-saved Sean Christopherson
2025-09-15 6:30 ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-09-16 8:46 ` Binbin Wu
2025-09-12 23:22 ` [PATCH v15 12/41] KVM: VMX: Introduce CET VMCS fields and control bits Sean Christopherson
2025-09-15 6:31 ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-09-16 9:00 ` Binbin Wu
2025-09-12 23:22 ` [PATCH v15 13/41] KVM: x86: Enable guest SSP read/write interface with new uAPIs Sean Christopherson
2025-09-15 6:55 ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-09-15 22:12 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-09-16 5:52 ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-09-19 17:47 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-09-19 17:58 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-09-12 23:22 ` [PATCH v15 14/41] KVM: VMX: Emulate read and write to CET MSRs Sean Christopherson
2025-09-16 7:07 ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-09-16 7:48 ` Chao Gao
2025-09-16 8:10 ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-09-19 22:11 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-09-17 7:52 ` Binbin Wu
2025-09-12 23:22 ` [PATCH v15 15/41] KVM: x86: Save and reload SSP to/from SMRAM Sean Christopherson
2025-09-16 7:37 ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-09-17 7:53 ` Binbin Wu
2025-09-12 23:22 ` [PATCH v15 16/41] KVM: VMX: Set up interception for CET MSRs Sean Christopherson
2025-09-15 17:21 ` Xin Li
2025-09-16 7:40 ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-09-17 8:32 ` Binbin Wu
2025-09-17 13:44 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-09-12 23:22 ` [PATCH v15 17/41] KVM: VMX: Set host constant supervisor states to VMCS fields Sean Christopherson
2025-09-16 7:44 ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-09-17 8:48 ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-09-17 21:25 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-09-12 23:22 ` [PATCH v15 18/41] KVM: x86: Don't emulate instructions affected by CET features Sean Christopherson
2025-09-17 8:16 ` Chao Gao
2025-09-17 21:15 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-09-18 14:54 ` Chao Gao
2025-09-18 18:02 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-09-17 8:19 ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-09-18 14:15 ` Chao Gao
2025-09-19 1:25 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-09-17 8:45 ` Binbin Wu
2025-09-12 23:22 ` [PATCH v15 19/41] KVM: x86: Enable CET virtualization for VMX and advertise to userspace Sean Christopherson
2025-09-18 1:57 ` Binbin Wu
2025-09-19 22:57 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-09-18 2:18 ` Binbin Wu
2025-09-18 18:05 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-09-19 7:10 ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-09-19 14:25 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-09-12 23:22 ` [PATCH v15 20/41] KVM: nVMX: Virtualize NO_HW_ERROR_CODE_CC for L1 event injection to L2 Sean Christopherson
2025-09-18 2:27 ` Binbin Wu
2025-09-12 23:22 ` [PATCH v15 21/41] KVM: nVMX: Prepare for enabling CET support for nested guest Sean Christopherson
2025-09-15 17:45 ` Xin Li
2025-09-18 4:48 ` Xin Li
2025-09-18 18:05 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-09-12 23:23 ` [PATCH v15 22/41] KVM: nVMX: Add consistency checks for CR0.WP and CR4.CET Sean Christopherson
2025-09-12 23:23 ` [PATCH v15 23/41] KVM: nVMX: Add consistency checks for CET states Sean Christopherson
2025-09-12 23:23 ` [PATCH v15 24/41] KVM: nVMX: Advertise new VM-Entry/Exit control bits for CET state Sean Christopherson
2025-09-12 23:23 ` [PATCH v15 25/41] KVM: x86: SVM: Emulate reads and writes to shadow stack MSRs Sean Christopherson
2025-09-15 17:56 ` Xin Li
2025-09-15 20:43 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-09-12 23:23 ` [PATCH v15 26/41] KVM: nSVM: Save/load CET Shadow Stack state to/from vmcb12/vmcb02 Sean Christopherson
2025-09-12 23:23 ` [PATCH v15 27/41] KVM: x86: SVM: Update dump_vmcb with shadow stack save area additions Sean Christopherson
2025-09-12 23:23 ` [PATCH v15 28/41] KVM: x86: SVM: Pass through shadow stack MSRs as appropriate Sean Christopherson
2025-09-12 23:23 ` [PATCH v15 29/41] KVM: SEV: Synchronize MSR_IA32_XSS from the GHCB when it's valid Sean Christopherson
2025-09-16 18:55 ` John Allen
2025-09-16 19:53 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-09-16 20:33 ` John Allen
2025-09-16 21:38 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-09-16 22:55 ` John Allen
2025-09-18 19:48 ` John Allen
2025-09-18 20:34 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-09-18 20:44 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-09-18 21:23 ` John Allen
2025-09-18 21:42 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-09-18 22:18 ` John Allen
2025-09-19 13:40 ` Tom Lendacky
2025-09-19 16:13 ` John Allen
2025-09-19 17:29 ` Edgecombe, Rick P [this message]
2025-09-19 20:58 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-09-22 9:19 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-09-22 9:33 ` Upadhyay, Neeraj
2025-09-22 9:54 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-09-12 23:23 ` [PATCH v15 30/41] KVM: SVM: Enable shadow stack virtualization for SVM Sean Christopherson
2025-09-12 23:23 ` [PATCH v15 31/41] KVM: x86: Add human friendly formatting for #XM, and #VE Sean Christopherson
2025-09-12 23:23 ` [PATCH v15 32/41] KVM: x86: Define Control Protection Exception (#CP) vector Sean Christopherson
2025-09-12 23:23 ` [PATCH v15 33/41] KVM: x86: Define AMD's #HV, #VC, and #SX exception vectors Sean Christopherson
2025-09-12 23:23 ` [PATCH v15 34/41] KVM: selftests: Add ex_str() to print human friendly name of " Sean Christopherson
2025-09-15 9:07 ` Chao Gao
2025-09-12 23:23 ` [PATCH v15 35/41] KVM: selftests: Add an MSR test to exercise guest/host and read/write Sean Christopherson
2025-09-15 8:22 ` Chao Gao
2025-09-15 17:00 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-09-12 23:23 ` [PATCH v15 36/41] KVM: selftests: Add support for MSR_IA32_{S,U}_CET to MSRs test Sean Christopherson
2025-09-12 23:23 ` [PATCH v15 37/41] KVM: selftests: Extend MSRs test to validate vCPUs without supported features Sean Christopherson
2025-09-12 23:23 ` [PATCH v15 38/41] KVM: selftests: Add KVM_{G,S}ET_ONE_REG coverage to MSRs test Sean Christopherson
2025-09-12 23:23 ` [PATCH v15 39/41] KVM: selftests: Add coverate for KVM-defined registers in " Sean Christopherson
2025-09-12 23:23 ` [PATCH v15 40/41] KVM: selftests: Verify MSRs are (not) in save/restore list when (un)supported Sean Christopherson
2025-09-12 23:23 ` [PATCH v15 41/41] KVM: VMX: Make CR4.CET a guest owned bit Sean Christopherson
2025-09-15 13:18 ` [PATCH v15 00/41] KVM: x86: Mega-CET Mathias Krause
2025-09-15 21:20 ` John Allen
2025-09-16 13:53 ` Chao Gao
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