From: Tom Lendacky <thomas.lendacky@amd.com>
To: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>
Cc: "Nikunj A. Dadhania" <nikunj@amd.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, x86@kernel.org,
kvm@vger.kernel.org, mingo@redhat.com, tglx@linutronix.de,
dave.hansen@linux.intel.com, pgonda@google.com,
seanjc@google.com, pbonzini@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v15 04/13] x86/sev: Change TSC MSR behavior for Secure TSC enabled guests
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2024 16:43:15 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <c3920b80-d288-6eca-3373-34e272a490de@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20241211222257.GKZ1oQwZcSXSMXPvoY@fat_crate.local>
On 12/11/24 16:22, Borislav Petkov wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 11, 2024 at 04:01:31PM -0600, Tom Lendacky wrote:
>> It could be any reason... maybe the hypervisor wants to know when this
>> MSR used in order to tell the guest owner to update their code. Writing
>> to or reading from that MSR is not that common, so I would think we want
>> to keep the same behavior that has been in effect.
>
> Ah, I thought you're gonna say something along the lines of, yeah, we must use
> the HV GHCB protocol because of <raisins> and there's no other way this could
> work.
>
>> But if we do want to make this change, maybe do it separate from the
>> Secure TSC series since it alters the behavior of SEV-ES guests and
>> SEV-SNP guests without Secure TSC.
>
> Already suggested so - this should be a separate patch.
>
> It would be interesting to see if it brings any improvement by avoiding the HV
> call... especially since RDTSC is used a *lot* and prominently at that in
> sched_clock, for example.
I doubt you would notice anything since it doesn't look like Linux ever
reads from or writes to MSR_IA32_TSC, preferring to just use RDTSC or
RDTSCP which aren't usually intercepted at all and so never goes out to
the HV.
Thanks,
Tom
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-12-11 22:43 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 96+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-12-03 9:00 [PATCH v15 00/13] Add Secure TSC support for SNP guests Nikunj A Dadhania
2024-12-03 9:00 ` [PATCH v15 01/13] x86/sev: Carve out and export SNP guest messaging init routines Nikunj A Dadhania
2024-12-03 14:19 ` Borislav Petkov
2024-12-03 14:35 ` Nikunj A. Dadhania
2024-12-03 14:50 ` Borislav Petkov
2024-12-03 14:52 ` Nikunj A. Dadhania
2024-12-04 9:30 ` Nikunj A. Dadhania
2024-12-04 10:00 ` Nikunj A. Dadhania
2024-12-04 20:02 ` Borislav Petkov
2024-12-05 6:23 ` Nikunj A. Dadhania
2024-12-06 20:27 ` Borislav Petkov
2024-12-07 0:27 ` Dionna Amalie Glaze
2024-12-09 15:36 ` Borislav Petkov
2024-12-09 6:16 ` Nikunj A. Dadhania
2024-12-09 15:38 ` Borislav Petkov
2024-12-10 6:38 ` Nikunj A Dadhania
2025-01-04 19:06 ` Francesco Lavra
2025-01-06 4:14 ` Nikunj A. Dadhania
2024-12-03 9:00 ` [PATCH v15 02/13] x86/sev: Relocate SNP guest messaging routines to common code Nikunj A Dadhania
2024-12-04 20:20 ` Borislav Petkov
2024-12-05 6:25 ` Nikunj A. Dadhania
2024-12-03 9:00 ` [PATCH v15 03/13] x86/sev: Add Secure TSC support for SNP guests Nikunj A Dadhania
2024-12-05 11:55 ` Borislav Petkov
2024-12-06 4:19 ` Nikunj A. Dadhania
2024-12-16 16:06 ` Tom Lendacky
2024-12-17 6:12 ` Nikunj A Dadhania
2025-01-04 20:26 ` Francesco Lavra
2025-01-06 4:34 ` Nikunj A. Dadhania
2024-12-03 9:00 ` [PATCH v15 04/13] x86/sev: Change TSC MSR behavior for Secure TSC enabled guests Nikunj A Dadhania
2024-12-09 15:57 ` Borislav Petkov
2024-12-10 5:02 ` Nikunj A. Dadhania
2024-12-10 11:43 ` Borislav Petkov
2024-12-10 16:44 ` Nikunj A Dadhania
2024-12-10 14:29 ` Tom Lendacky
2024-12-10 16:59 ` Nikunj A Dadhania
2024-12-11 19:00 ` Borislav Petkov
2024-12-11 22:01 ` Tom Lendacky
2024-12-11 22:22 ` Borislav Petkov
2024-12-11 22:43 ` Tom Lendacky [this message]
2024-12-03 9:00 ` [PATCH v15 05/13] x86/sev: Prevent RDTSC/RDTSCP interception " Nikunj A Dadhania
2024-12-10 11:53 ` Borislav Petkov
2024-12-03 9:00 ` [PATCH v15 06/13] x86/sev: Prevent GUEST_TSC_FREQ MSR " Nikunj A Dadhania
2024-12-10 12:11 ` Borislav Petkov
2024-12-10 17:13 ` Nikunj A Dadhania
2024-12-10 17:18 ` Borislav Petkov
2024-12-12 4:53 ` Nikunj A. Dadhania
2024-12-17 10:57 ` Borislav Petkov
2024-12-18 5:20 ` Nikunj A. Dadhania
2024-12-24 11:53 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-01-01 8:44 ` Nikunj A. Dadhania
2025-01-01 16:10 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-01-02 5:03 ` Nikunj A. Dadhania
2025-01-02 9:07 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-01-02 9:30 ` Nikunj A. Dadhania
2025-01-02 14:45 ` Tom Lendacky
2025-01-02 14:54 ` Borislav Petkov
2024-12-10 17:22 ` Tom Lendacky
2024-12-03 9:00 ` [PATCH v15 07/13] x86/sev: Mark Secure TSC as reliable clocksource Nikunj A Dadhania
2024-12-11 20:32 ` Borislav Petkov
2024-12-12 5:07 ` Nikunj A Dadhania
2024-12-03 9:00 ` [PATCH v15 08/13] x86/cpu/amd: Do not print FW_BUG for Secure TSC Nikunj A Dadhania
2024-12-17 11:10 ` Borislav Petkov
2024-12-18 5:21 ` Nikunj A. Dadhania
2024-12-03 9:00 ` [PATCH v15 09/13] tsc: Use the GUEST_TSC_FREQ MSR for discovering TSC frequency Nikunj A Dadhania
2024-12-16 16:31 ` Tom Lendacky
2024-12-17 6:27 ` Nikunj A Dadhania
2024-12-17 7:05 ` Tom Lendacky
2024-12-17 7:57 ` Nikunj A. Dadhania
2024-12-30 11:29 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-01-01 8:56 ` Nikunj A. Dadhania
2025-01-01 16:15 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-01-02 5:10 ` Nikunj A. Dadhania
2025-01-02 9:17 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-01-02 10:01 ` Nikunj A. Dadhania
2025-01-02 10:45 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-01-02 13:10 ` Nikunj A. Dadhania
2025-01-03 12:04 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-01-03 13:59 ` Nikunj A. Dadhania
2025-01-04 10:28 ` Borislav Petkov
2024-12-03 9:00 ` [PATCH v15 10/13] tsc: Upgrade TSC clocksource rating Nikunj A Dadhania
2024-12-30 11:36 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-01-02 5:20 ` Nikunj A. Dadhania
2025-01-02 9:32 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-01-03 10:09 ` Nikunj A. Dadhania
2025-01-03 12:06 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-01-03 14:03 ` Nikunj A. Dadhania
2024-12-03 9:00 ` [PATCH v15 11/13] tsc: Switch to native sched clock Nikunj A Dadhania
2024-12-03 9:00 ` [PATCH v15 12/13] x86/kvmclock: Abort SecureTSC enabled guest when kvmclock is selected Nikunj A Dadhania
2024-12-16 16:36 ` Tom Lendacky
2024-12-30 17:04 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-01-01 9:44 ` Nikunj A. Dadhania
2025-01-01 16:19 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-01-02 5:34 ` Nikunj A. Dadhania
2025-01-02 9:25 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-01-02 10:06 ` Nikunj A. Dadhania
2024-12-03 9:00 ` [PATCH v15 13/13] x86/sev: Allow Secure TSC feature for SNP guests Nikunj A Dadhania
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