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From: mlevitsk@redhat.com
To: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org, Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	x86@kernel.org, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	 linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] KVM: x86: Fix a semi theoretical bug in kvm_arch_async_page_present_queued
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2025 15:57:37 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c9b893a643cea2ffd4324c25b9d169f920db1ad4.camel@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aP-JKkZ400TERMSy@google.com>

On Mon, 2025-10-27 at 08:00 -0700, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 23, 2025, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> > On Tue, Sep 23, 2025, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> > > On 9/23/25 20:55, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> > > > On Tue, Sep 23, 2025, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> > > > > On 8/13/25 21:23, Maxim Levitsky wrote:
> > > > > > diff --git a/arch/x86/kvm/x86.c b/arch/x86/kvm/x86.c
> > > > > > index 9018d56b4b0a..3d45a4cd08a4 100644
> > > > > > --- a/arch/x86/kvm/x86.c
> > > > > > +++ b/arch/x86/kvm/x86.c
> > > > > > @@ -13459,9 +13459,14 @@ void kvm_arch_async_page_present(struct kvm_vcpu *vcpu,
> > > > > >    void kvm_arch_async_page_present_queued(struct kvm_vcpu *vcpu)
> > > > > >    {
> > > > > > -	kvm_make_request(KVM_REQ_APF_READY, vcpu);
> > > > > > -	if (!vcpu->arch.apf.pageready_pending)
> > > > > > +	/* Pairs with smp_store_release in vcpu_enter_guest. */
> > > > > > +	bool in_guest_mode = (smp_load_acquire(&vcpu->mode) == IN_GUEST_MODE);
> > > > > > +	bool page_ready_pending = READ_ONCE(vcpu->arch.apf.pageready_pending);
> > > > > > +
> > > > > > +	if (!in_guest_mode || !page_ready_pending) {
> > > > > > +		kvm_make_request(KVM_REQ_APF_READY, vcpu);
> > > > > >    		kvm_vcpu_kick(vcpu);
> > > > > > +	}
> > > > > 
> > > > > Unlike Sean, I think the race exists in abstract and is not benign
> > > > 
> > > > How is it not benign?  I never said the race doesn't exist, I said that consuming
> > > > a stale vcpu->arch.apf.pageready_pending in kvm_arch_async_page_present_queued()
> > > > is benign.
> > > 
> > > In principle there is a possibility that a KVM_REQ_APF_READY is missed.
> > 
> > I think you mean a kick (wakeup or IPI), is missed, not that the APF_READY itself
> > is missed.  I.e. KVM_REQ_APF_READY will never be lost, KVM just might enter the
> > guest or schedule out the vCPU with the flag set.
> > 
> > All in all, I think we're in violent agreement.  I agree that kvm_vcpu_kick()
> > could be missed (theoretically), but I'm saying that missing the kick would be
> > benign due to a myriad of other barriers and checks, i.e. that the vCPU is
> > guaranteed to see KVM_REQ_APF_READY anyways.
> > 
> > E.g. my suggestion earlier regarding OUTSIDE_GUEST_MODE was to rely on the
> > smp_mb__after_srcu_read_{,un}lock() barriers in vcpu_enter_guest() to ensure
> > KVM_REQ_APF_READY would be observed before trying VM-Enter, and that if KVM might
> > be in the process of emulating HLT (blocking), that either KVM_REQ_APF_READY is
> > visible to the vCPU or that kvm_arch_async_page_present() wakes the vCPU.  Oh,
> > hilarious, async_pf_execute() also does an unconditional __kvm_vcpu_wake_up().
> > 
> > Huh.  But isn't that a real bug?  KVM doesn't consider KVM_REQ_APF_READY to be a
> > wake event, so isn't this an actual race?
> > 
> >   vCPU                                  async #PF
> >   kvm_check_async_pf_completion()
> >   pageready_pending = false
> >   VM-Enter
> >   HLT
> >   VM-Exit
> >                                         kvm_make_request(KVM_REQ_APF_READY, vcpu)
> >                                         kvm_vcpu_kick(vcpu)  // nop as the vCPU isn't blocking, yet
> >                                         __kvm_vcpu_wake_up() // nop for the same reason
> >   vcpu_block()
> >   <hang>
> > 
> > On x86, the "page ready" IRQ is only injected from vCPU context, so AFAICT nothing
> > is guarnateed wake the vCPU in the above sequence.
> 
> Gah, KVM checks async_pf.done instead of the request.  So I don't think there's
> a bug, just weird code.

Hi!

Note that I posted a v2 of this patch series. Do I need to drop this patch or its better to keep it
(the patch should still be correct, but maybe an overkill I think).

What do you think? 

Can we have the patch 3 of the v2 merged as it fixes an real issue, which actually
causes random and hard to debug failures?

Best regards,
	Maxim Levitsky

> 
>   bool kvm_vcpu_has_events(struct kvm_vcpu *vcpu)
>   {
> 	if (!list_empty_careful(&vcpu->async_pf.done))  <===
> 		return true;
> 


  reply	other threads:[~2025-10-30 19:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-13 19:23 [PATCH 0/3] Fix a lost async pagefault notification when the guest is using SMM Maxim Levitsky
2025-08-13 19:23 ` [PATCH 1/3] KVM: x86: Warn if KVM tries to deliver an #APF completion when APF is not enabled Maxim Levitsky
2025-08-13 19:23 ` [PATCH 2/3] KVM: x86: Fix a semi theoretical bug in kvm_arch_async_page_present_queued Maxim Levitsky
2025-08-18 18:08   ` Sean Christopherson
2025-09-23 15:58   ` Paolo Bonzini
2025-09-23 16:23     ` Paolo Bonzini
2025-09-23 18:55     ` Sean Christopherson
2025-09-23 19:28       ` Paolo Bonzini
2025-09-23 23:14         ` Sean Christopherson
2025-10-27 15:00           ` Sean Christopherson
2025-10-30 19:57             ` mlevitsk [this message]
2025-10-30 20:28               ` Sean Christopherson
2025-08-13 19:23 ` [PATCH 3/3] KVM: x86: Fix the interaction between SMM and the asynchronous pagefault Maxim Levitsky
2025-08-18 18:20   ` Sean Christopherson

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