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From: MUKESH RATHOR <mukeshrathor@microsoft.com>
To: Michael Kelley <mhklinux@outlook.com>,
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Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] RE: [PATCH 0/5] Add new headers for Hyper-V Dom0
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2024 01:34:52 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d70bbad7-bcad-2031-a4e1-755b502422a4@microsoft.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <SN6PR02MB4157F6EA7B2454D2F6CBF2ECD4782@SN6PR02MB4157.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>



On 10/10/24 11:21, Michael Kelley wrote:
 > From: Nuno Das Neves <nunodasneves@linux.microsoft.com> Sent: 
Thursday, October 3, 2024 12:51 PM
 >>
 >> To support Hyper-V Dom0 (aka Linux as root partition), many new
 >> definitions are required.
 >>
 >> The plan going forward is to directly import headers from
 >> Hyper-V. This is a more maintainable way to import definitions
 >> rather than via the TLFS doc. This patch series introduces
 >> new headers (hvhdk.h, hvgdk.h, etc, see patch #3) directly
 >> derived from Hyper-V code.
 >>
 >> This patch series replaces hyperv-tlfs.h with hvhdk.h, but only
 >> in Microsoft-maintained Hyper-V code where they are needed. This
 >> leaves the existing hyperv-tlfs.h in use elsewhere - notably for
 >> Hyper-V enlightenments on KVM guests.
 >
 > Could you elaborate on why the bifurcation is necessary? Is it an
 > interim step until the KVM code can use the new scheme as well?
 > Also, does "Hyper-V enlightenments on KVM guests" refer to
 > nested KVM running at L1 on an L0 Hyper-V, and supporting L2 guests?
 > Or is it the more general KVM support for mimicking Hyper-V for
 > the purposes of running Windows guests? From these patches, it
 > looks like your intention is for all KVM support for Hyper-V
 > functionality to continue to use the existing hyperv-tlfs.h file.

Like it says above, we are creating new dom0 (root/host) support
that requires many new defs only available to dom0 and not any
guest. Hypervisor makes them publicly available via hv*dk files.

Ideally, someday everybody will use those, I hope we can move in
that direction, but I guess one step at a time. For now, KVM can
continue to use the tlfs file, and if there is no resistance, we
can move them to hv*dk files also as next step and obsolete the
single tlfs file.

Since headers are the ultimate source of truth, this will allow
better maintenance, better debug/support experience, and a more
stable stack. It also enforces non-leaking of data structs from
private header files (unfortunately has happened).

Thanks
-Mukesh


  reply	other threads:[~2024-10-11  1:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-10-03 19:50 [PATCH 0/5] Add new headers for Hyper-V Dom0 Nuno Das Neves
2024-10-03 19:51 ` [PATCH 1/5] hyperv: Move hv_connection_id to hyperv-tlfs.h Nuno Das Neves
2024-10-07 16:24   ` Wei Liu
2024-10-03 19:51 ` [PATCH 2/5] hyperv: Remove unnecessary #includes Nuno Das Neves
2024-10-07 16:24   ` Wei Liu
2024-10-10 18:21   ` Michael Kelley
2024-10-31 18:47     ` Nuno Das Neves
2024-10-03 19:51 ` [PATCH 3/5] hyperv: Add new Hyper-V headers Nuno Das Neves
2024-10-10 18:21   ` Michael Kelley
2024-10-11  1:34     ` [EXTERNAL] " MUKESH RATHOR
2024-10-03 19:51 ` [PATCH 4/5] hyperv: Add hv_defs.h to conditionally include hyperv-tlfs.h or hvhdk.h Nuno Das Neves
2024-10-03 19:51 ` [PATCH 5/5] hyperv: Use hvhdk.h instead of hyperv-tlfs.h in Hyper-V code Nuno Das Neves
2024-10-04 15:58   ` Stanislav Kinsburskii
2024-10-05  0:07     ` Nuno Das Neves
2024-10-04 19:11   ` Simon Horman
2024-10-04 23:36     ` Nuno Das Neves
2024-10-04 21:55   ` kernel test robot
2024-10-05  1:54   ` kernel test robot
2024-10-07 16:26 ` [PATCH 0/5] Add new headers for Hyper-V Dom0 Wei Liu
2024-10-10 18:21 ` Michael Kelley
2024-10-11  1:34   ` MUKESH RATHOR [this message]
2024-10-23  0:04     ` [EXTERNAL] " Nuno Das Neves
2024-10-23 18:39       ` Michael Kelley
2024-10-23  0:51   ` Nuno Das Neves
2024-10-23 18:32     ` Michael Kelley
2024-10-31 19:05 ` Easwar Hariharan
2024-10-31 22:59   ` Nuno Das Neves

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