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From: Babu Moger <babu.moger@amd.com>
To: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
Cc: Jim Mattson <jmattson@google.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	"Yu, Fenghua" <fenghua.yu@intel.com>,
	Tony Luck <tony.luck@intel.com>,
	Wanpeng Li <wanpengli@tencent.com>,
	kvm list <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Tom Lendacky <thomas.lendacky@amd.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>,
	the arch/x86 maintainers <x86@kernel.org>,
	kyung.min.park@intel.com, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Krish Sadhukhan <krish.sadhukhan@oracle.com>,
	"H . Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	mgross@linux.intel.com, Vitaly Kuznetsov <vkuznets@redhat.com>,
	kim.phillips@amd.com, wei.huang2@amd.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] x86/cpufeatures: Add the Virtual SPEC_CTRL feature
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2020 12:07:30 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e026c64f-e36e-efea-9252-509090670bf7@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <X+IvzsazR8f2LjLw@google.com>



On 12/22/20 11:41 AM, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 22, 2020, Babu Moger wrote:
>>
>> On 12/9/20 5:11 PM, Jim Mattson wrote:
>>> On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 2:39 PM Babu Moger <babu.moger@amd.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 12/7/20 5:22 PM, Jim Mattson wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 2:38 PM Babu Moger <babu.moger@amd.com> wrote:
>>>>>> diff --git a/arch/x86/include/asm/cpufeatures.h b/arch/x86/include/asm/cpufeatures.h
>>>>>> index dad350d42ecf..d649ac5ed7c7 100644
>>>>>> --- a/arch/x86/include/asm/cpufeatures.h
>>>>>> +++ b/arch/x86/include/asm/cpufeatures.h
>>>>>> @@ -335,6 +335,7 @@
>>>>>>  #define X86_FEATURE_AVIC               (15*32+13) /* Virtual Interrupt Controller */
>>>>>>  #define X86_FEATURE_V_VMSAVE_VMLOAD    (15*32+15) /* Virtual VMSAVE VMLOAD */
>>>>>>  #define X86_FEATURE_VGIF               (15*32+16) /* Virtual GIF */
>>>>>> +#define X86_FEATURE_V_SPEC_CTRL                (15*32+20) /* Virtual SPEC_CTRL */
>>>>>
>>>>> Shouldn't this bit be reported by KVM_GET_SUPPORTED_CPUID when it's
>>>>> enumerated on the host?
>>>>
>>>> Jim, I am not sure if this needs to be reported by
>>>> KVM_GET_SUPPORTED_CPUID. I dont see V_VMSAVE_VMLOAD or VGIF being reported
>>>> via KVM_GET_SUPPORTED_CPUID. Do you see the need for that?
>>>
>>> Every little bit helps. No, it isn't *needed*. But then again, this
>>> entire patchset isn't *needed*, is it?
>>>
>>
>> Working on v2 of these patches. Saw this code comment(in
>> arch/x86/kvm/cpuid.c) on about exposing SVM features to the guest.
>>
>>
>>         /*
>>          * Hide all SVM features by default, SVM will set the cap bits for
>>          * features it emulates and/or exposes for L1.
>>          */
>>         kvm_cpu_cap_mask(CPUID_8000_000A_EDX, 0);
>>
>>
>> Should we go ahead with the changes here?
> 
> Probably not, as the current SVM implementation aligns with the intended use of
> KVM_GET_SUPPORTED_CPUID.  The current approach is to enumerate what SVM features
> KVM can virtualize or emulate for a nested VM, i.e. what SVM features an L1 VMM
> can use and thus can be set in a vCPU's CPUID model.  For V_SPEC_CTRL, I'm
> pretty sure Jim was providing feedback for the non-nested case of reporting
> host/KVM support of the feature itself.
> 
> There is the question of whether or not KVM should have an ioctl() to report
> what virtualization features are supported/enabled.  AFAIK, it's not truly
> required as userspace can glean the information via /proc/cpuinfo (especially
> now that vmx_features exists), raw CPUID, and KVM module params.  Providing an
> ioctl() would likely be a bit cleaner for userspace, but I'm guessing that ship
> has already sailed for most VMMs.
> 

Sean, Thanks for the clarifications.

  reply	other threads:[~2020-12-22 18:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-12-07 22:37 [PATCH 0/2] x86: Add the feature Virtual SPEC_CTRL Babu Moger
2020-12-07 22:37 ` [PATCH 1/2] x86/cpufeatures: Add the Virtual SPEC_CTRL feature Babu Moger
2020-12-07 23:22   ` Jim Mattson
2020-12-09 22:39     ` Babu Moger
2020-12-09 23:11       ` Jim Mattson
2020-12-22 16:14         ` Babu Moger
2020-12-22 17:41           ` Sean Christopherson
2020-12-22 18:07             ` Babu Moger [this message]
2020-12-07 22:37 ` [PATCH 2/2] KVM: SVM: Add support for Virtual SPEC_CTRL Babu Moger
2020-12-07 23:06   ` Jim Mattson
2020-12-10 21:26     ` Babu Moger
2020-12-10 21:36       ` Jim Mattson
2020-12-10 22:57         ` Babu Moger
2020-12-22 16:14     ` Babu Moger
2020-12-07 23:13   ` Sean Christopherson
2020-12-10 21:31     ` Babu Moger

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