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From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>
Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	"Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>,
	Juan Quintela <quintela@redhat.com>,
	Radim Krcmar <rkrcmar@redhat.com>,
	Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [qemu patch 2/2] kvmclock: reduce kvmclock difference on migration
Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2016 18:30:06 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e2b9b191-ff7f-df1d-95fd-1c1ec6ea6481@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20161128163648.GA4028@amt.cnet>



On 28/11/2016 17:36, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
> If the source masterclock is disabled, then the guest does
> not enable the optimization to not use a global variable 
> to guarantee monotonicity. Therefore there will be no 
> time backwards events (the timer backwards events crashed 
> guests, and are the reason for reading from guest memory).
> 
> So if there are no flaws in the reasoning above, 
> no, there is no need to read from memory if 
> masterclock is disabled.

Yeah, the reasoning is sound.  So you go from what Eduardo and I were
thinking:

    if last KVM_GET_CLOCK was not reliable then
        read from memory

to this:

    if last KVM_GET_CLOCK was not reliable && masterclock is enabled
        read from memory

but:

- on an old kernel, the left side is always true and the right side is
unknown (so we must assume it's true and read from memory)

- on a new kernel, the two sides of the "&&" are exactly the opposite,
so the result is always false

and then it becomes

    if old kernel then
        read from memory

Got it finally. :)

Paolo

> Can you state the reasons why you think it should be enabled?
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2016-11-28 17:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-11-14 12:36 [qemu patch 0/2] improve kvmclock difference on migration Marcelo Tosatti
2016-11-14 12:36 ` [qemu patch 1/2] kvm: sync linux headers Marcelo Tosatti
2016-11-14 12:36 ` [qemu patch 2/2] kvmclock: reduce kvmclock difference on migration Marcelo Tosatti
2016-11-14 13:54   ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-11-14 14:00     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2016-11-14 14:22       ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-11-14 14:50         ` Marcelo Tosatti
2016-11-14 15:00           ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-11-14 15:40             ` Marcelo Tosatti
2016-11-14 16:43               ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-11-14 17:13                 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2016-11-14 17:20                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-11-14 18:15                     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2016-11-17 12:16                       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2016-11-17 13:03                         ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-11-28 13:47                         ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-11-28 14:28                           ` Eduardo Habkost
2016-11-28 15:12                             ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-11-28 16:36                           ` Marcelo Tosatti
2016-11-28 17:30                             ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2016-11-14 14:11     ` Juan Quintela
2016-11-14 14:09   ` Juan Quintela
2016-11-14 15:37     ` Marcelo Tosatti

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