From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: Alexander Shishkin <alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Luwei Kang <luwei.kang@intel.com>,
kvm@vger.kernel.org, tglx@linutronix.de, mingo@redhat.com,
hpa@zytor.com, x86@kernel.org, rkrcmar@redhat.com,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, joro@8bytes.org,
peterz@infradead.org, chao.p.peng@linux.intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 06/13] KVM: x86: Add Intel Processor Trace virtualization mode
Date: Thu, 3 May 2018 15:48:12 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <e948d77e-b96e-147a-745d-aad05935b61b@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180503133823.tqbraql3b7ltuo6a@um.fi.intel.com>
On 03/05/2018 15:38, Alexander Shishkin wrote:
> On Thu, May 03, 2018 at 02:50:12PM +0200, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
>> On 03/05/2018 14:48, Alexander Shishkin wrote:
>>>> Guest tracing can only be enabled at boot time, because the guest's
>>>> CPUID changes depending on whether it's enabled. And likewise if perf
>>>> record can do system-wide tracing at any time during the guest's
>>>> execution, we need to know it at boot time in order to set the guest CPUID.
>>>
>>> CPUID is immaterial here; the real trick is to disallow the use of PT at
>>> runtime when the host suddenly decides to trace the guest, in such a way
>>> that the guest user is informed that their trace is incomplete due to the
>>> host activity.
>>
>> How do you do that?
>
> Off the top of my head:
> * you don't;
> * you write something to the PT stream;
> * you signal an error via RTIT_STATUS;
> * guest always prevails: host gets PARTIAL records in case of a conflict.
>
>> And you still need the module parameter to decide
>> whether the host is _allowed_ to cause incomplete traces in the guest.
>
> Or rather a parameter to decide who wins in case both host and guest want
> to trace the guest. That's arguably better than having different versions of
> PT in the guest depending on a module parameter setting.
It's not different versions; it's having PT vs. not having PT at all. I
don't really see it as a big issue. The nice thing about this series is
that the interactions between PT code and KVM code are minimal.
Paolo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-05-03 13:48 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-05-03 12:08 [PATCH v7 00/13] Intel Processor Trace virtualization enabling Luwei Kang
2018-05-03 10:33 ` Alexander Shishkin
2018-05-03 12:08 ` [PATCH v7 01/13] perf/x86/intel/pt: Move Intel-PT MSRs bit definitions to a public header Luwei Kang
2018-05-03 12:08 ` [PATCH v7 02/13] perf/x86/intel/pt: Change pt_cap_get() to a public function Luwei Kang
2018-05-03 12:08 ` [PATCH v7 03/13] perf/x86/intel/pt: Add new bit definitions for Intel PT MSRs Luwei Kang
2018-05-03 12:08 ` [PATCH v7 04/13] perf/x86/intel/pt: add new capability for Intel PT Luwei Kang
2018-05-03 12:08 ` [PATCH v7 05/13] perf/x86/intel/pt: Introduce a new function to get capability of " Luwei Kang
2018-05-03 10:50 ` Alexander Shishkin
2018-05-03 11:04 ` Kang, Luwei
2018-05-03 12:13 ` Alexander Shishkin
2018-05-03 12:30 ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-05-03 12:30 ` Kang, Luwei
2018-05-03 12:32 ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-05-03 12:50 ` Kang, Luwei
2018-05-03 12:59 ` Alexander Shishkin
2018-05-03 12:08 ` [PATCH v7 06/13] KVM: x86: Add Intel Processor Trace virtualization mode Luwei Kang
2018-05-03 11:32 ` Alexander Shishkin
2018-05-03 11:50 ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-05-03 12:02 ` Alexander Shishkin
2018-05-03 12:30 ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-05-03 12:48 ` Alexander Shishkin
2018-05-03 12:50 ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-05-03 13:38 ` Alexander Shishkin
2018-05-03 13:48 ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2018-05-04 10:38 ` Alexander Shishkin
2018-05-04 21:52 ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-05-04 10:45 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-05-04 21:44 ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-05-04 22:15 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-05-07 10:47 ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-05-03 11:52 ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-05-03 12:09 ` Alexander Shishkin
2018-05-03 12:31 ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-05-03 12:08 ` [PATCH v7 07/13] KVM: x86: Add Intel Processor Trace cpuid emulation Luwei Kang
2018-05-03 12:08 ` [PATCH v7 08/13] KVM: x86: Add Intel processor trace context for each vcpu Luwei Kang
2018-05-03 11:39 ` Alexander Shishkin
2018-05-03 11:53 ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-05-03 12:08 ` [PATCH v7 09/13] KVM: x86: Implement Intel Processor Trace context switch Luwei Kang
2018-05-04 10:29 ` Alexander Shishkin
2018-05-04 21:49 ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-05-03 12:08 ` [PATCH v7 10/13] KVM: x86: Introduce a function to initialize the PT configuration Luwei Kang
2018-05-03 12:08 ` [PATCH v7 11/13] KVM: x86: Implement Intel Processor Trace MSRs read/write Luwei Kang
2018-05-04 10:11 ` Alexander Shishkin
2018-05-04 21:47 ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-05-03 12:08 ` [PATCH v7 12/13] KVM: x86: Set intercept for Intel PT " Luwei Kang
2018-05-03 12:08 ` [PATCH v7 13/13] KVM: x86: Disable Intel Processor Trace when VMXON in L1 guest Luwei Kang
2018-05-04 10:23 ` Alexander Shishkin
2018-05-04 21:49 ` Paolo Bonzini
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2018-05-03 12:13 [PATCH v7 00/13] Intel Processor Trace virtualization enabling Luwei Kang
2018-05-03 12:13 ` [PATCH v7 06/13] KVM: x86: Add Intel Processor Trace virtualization mode Luwei Kang
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