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From: "Edgecombe, Rick P" <rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com>
To: "seanjc@google.com" <seanjc@google.com>
Cc: "isaku.yamahata@gmail.com" <isaku.yamahata@gmail.com>,
	"Huang, Kai" <kai.huang@intel.com>,
	"sagis@google.com" <sagis@google.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Aktas, Erdem" <erdemaktas@google.com>,
	"Zhao, Yan Y" <yan.y.zhao@intel.com>,
	"pbonzini@redhat.com" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"dmatlack@google.com" <dmatlack@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 02/16] KVM: x86/mmu: Introduce a slot flag to zap only slot leafs on slot deletion
Date: Wed, 15 May 2024 23:56:18 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ec40aed73b79f0099ec14293f2d87d0f72e7d67b.camel@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZkU7dl3BDXpwYwza@google.com>

On Wed, 2024-05-15 at 15:47 -0700, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> > I didn't gather there was any proof of this. Did you have any hunch either
> > way?
> 
> I doubt the guest was able to access memory it shouldn't have been able to
> access.
> But that's a moot point, as the bigger problem is that, because we have no
> idea
> what's at fault, KVM can't make any guarantees about the safety of such a
> flag.
> 
> TDX is a special case where we don't have a better option (we do have other
> options,
> they're just horrible).  In other words, the choice is essentially to either:
> 
>  (a) cross our fingers and hope that the problem is limited to shared memory
>      with QEMU+VFIO, i.e. and doesn't affect TDX private memory.
> 
> or 
> 
>  (b) don't merge TDX until the original regression is fully resolved.
> 
> FWIW, I would love to root cause and fix the failure, but I don't know how
> feasible
> that is at this point.

If we think it is not a security issue, and we don't even know if it can be hit
for TDX, then I'd be included to go with (a). Especially since we are just
aiming for the most basic support, and don't have to worry about regressions in
the classical sense.

I'm not sure how easy it will be to root cause it at this point. Hopefully Yan
will be coming online soon. She mentioned some previous Intel effort to
investigate it. Presumably we would have to start with the old kernel that
exhibited the issue. If it can still be found...



  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-05-15 23:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 152+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-05-15  0:59 [PATCH 00/16] TDX MMU prep series part 1 Rick Edgecombe
2024-05-15  0:59 ` [PATCH 01/16] KVM: x86: Add a VM type define for TDX Rick Edgecombe
2024-05-15  0:59 ` [PATCH 02/16] KVM: x86/mmu: Introduce a slot flag to zap only slot leafs on slot deletion Rick Edgecombe
2024-05-15 13:24   ` Huang, Kai
2024-05-15 19:09     ` Sean Christopherson
2024-05-15 19:23       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-05-15 20:05         ` Sean Christopherson
2024-05-15 20:53           ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-05-15 22:47             ` Sean Christopherson
2024-05-15 23:06               ` Huang, Kai
2024-05-15 23:20                 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-05-15 23:36                   ` Huang, Kai
2024-05-16  1:12                   ` Xiaoyao Li
2024-05-17 15:30                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-05-22  1:29                     ` Yan Zhao
2024-05-22  2:31                       ` Sean Christopherson
2024-05-22  6:48                         ` Yan Zhao
2024-05-22 15:45                           ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-05-24  1:50                             ` Yan Zhao
2024-05-15 23:56               ` Edgecombe, Rick P [this message]
2024-05-16  2:21                 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-05-16  3:56                 ` Yan Zhao
2024-05-17 15:27           ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-05-17 15:25       ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-05-15 18:03   ` Isaku Yamahata
2024-05-15  0:59 ` [PATCH 03/16] KVM: x86/tdp_mmu: Add a helper function to walk down the TDP MMU Rick Edgecombe
2024-05-17  7:44   ` Chao Gao
2024-05-17  9:08     ` Isaku Yamahata
2024-05-15  0:59 ` [PATCH 04/16] KVM: x86/mmu: Add address conversion functions for TDX shared bit of GPA Rick Edgecombe
2024-05-15 22:34   ` Huang, Kai
2024-05-15 23:21     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-05-15 23:31       ` Huang, Kai
2024-05-15 23:38         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-05-15 23:44           ` Huang, Kai
2024-05-15 23:59             ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-05-16  0:12               ` Huang, Kai
2024-05-16  0:19                 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-05-16  0:25                   ` Huang, Kai
2024-05-16  0:35                     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-05-16  1:04                       ` Huang, Kai
2024-05-16  1:20                         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-05-16  1:40                           ` Huang, Kai
2024-05-16  5:52                             ` Yan Zhao
2024-05-18  0:25                               ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-05-16 23:08                           ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-05-17  0:37                             ` Huang, Kai
2024-05-17  1:51                               ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-05-17  4:26                                 ` Huang, Kai
2024-05-17 21:12                                   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-05-15  0:59 ` [PATCH 05/16] KVM: Add member to struct kvm_gfn_range for target alias Rick Edgecombe
2024-05-17 20:58   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-05-15  0:59 ` [PATCH 06/16] KVM: x86/mmu: Add a new is_private member for union kvm_mmu_page_role Rick Edgecombe
2024-05-15  0:59 ` [PATCH 07/16] KVM: x86/mmu: Add a private pointer to struct kvm_mmu_page Rick Edgecombe
2024-05-15  0:59 ` [PATCH 08/16] KVM: x86/mmu: Bug the VM if kvm_zap_gfn_range() is called for TDX Rick Edgecombe
2024-05-15 13:27   ` Huang, Kai
2024-05-15 15:22     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-05-15 23:14       ` Huang, Kai
2024-05-15 15:34   ` Sean Christopherson
2024-05-15 15:49     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-05-15 15:56       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-05-15 16:02         ` Sean Christopherson
2024-05-15 16:12           ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-05-15 18:09             ` Sean Christopherson
2024-05-15 18:22               ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-05-15 19:48                 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-05-15 20:32                   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-05-15 23:26                     ` Sean Christopherson
2024-05-15 16:22     ` Isaku Yamahata
2024-05-15 22:17       ` Huang, Kai
2024-05-15 23:14         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-05-15 23:38           ` Huang, Kai
2024-05-16  0:13             ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-05-16  0:27               ` Isaku Yamahata
2024-05-16  1:11               ` Huang, Kai
2024-05-16  0:15         ` Isaku Yamahata
2024-05-16  0:52           ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-05-16  1:21           ` Huang, Kai
2024-05-16 17:27             ` Isaku Yamahata
2024-05-16 21:46   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-05-16 22:23     ` Huang, Kai
2024-05-16 22:38       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-05-16 23:16         ` Huang, Kai
2024-05-15  0:59 ` [PATCH 09/16] KVM: x86/mmu: Make kvm_tdp_mmu_alloc_root() return void Rick Edgecombe
2024-05-15  0:59 ` [PATCH 10/16] KVM: x86/tdp_mmu: Support TDX private mapping for TDP MMU Rick Edgecombe
2024-05-15 17:35   ` Isaku Yamahata
2024-05-15 18:00     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-05-16  0:52   ` Huang, Kai
2024-05-16  1:27     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-05-16  2:07       ` Huang, Kai
2024-05-16  2:57         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-05-16 13:04           ` Huang, Kai
2024-05-16 16:36             ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-05-16 19:42               ` Isaku Yamahata
2024-05-17  2:35                 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-05-17  9:03                   ` Isaku Yamahata
2024-05-17 18:16                     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-05-17 19:16                       ` Isaku Yamahata
2024-05-20 23:32                         ` Isaku Yamahata
2024-05-21 15:07                           ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-05-21 16:15                             ` Isaku Yamahata
2024-05-22 22:34                               ` Isaku Yamahata
2024-05-22 23:09                                 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-05-22 23:47                                   ` Isaku Yamahata
2024-05-22 23:50                                     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-05-23  0:01                                       ` Isaku Yamahata
2024-05-23 18:27                                         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-05-24  7:55                                           ` Isaku Yamahata
2024-05-28 16:27                                             ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-05-28 17:47                                               ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-05-29  2:13                                                 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-05-29  7:25                                                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-05-31 14:11                                                     ` Isaku Yamahata
2024-05-28 17:43                           ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-05-28 17:16                         ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-05-28 18:29                           ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-05-29  1:06                             ` Isaku Yamahata
2024-05-29  1:51                               ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-05-17  2:36                 ` Huang, Kai
2024-05-17  8:14                   ` Isaku Yamahata
2024-05-18  5:42                     ` Huang, Kai
2024-05-18 15:41                       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-05-20 10:38                         ` Huang, Kai
2024-05-20 18:58                           ` Isaku Yamahata
2024-05-20 19:02                             ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-05-20 23:39                               ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-05-21  2:25                                 ` Isaku Yamahata
2024-05-21  2:57                                   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-05-20 22:34                             ` Huang, Kai
2024-05-16  1:48     ` Isaku Yamahata
2024-05-16  2:00       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-05-16  2:10         ` Huang, Kai
2024-05-28 16:59           ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-05-16 17:10         ` Isaku Yamahata
2024-05-23 23:14   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-05-24  8:20     ` Isaku Yamahata
2024-05-28 21:48       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-05-29  1:16         ` Isaku Yamahata
2024-05-29  1:50           ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-05-29  2:20             ` Isaku Yamahata
2024-05-29  2:29               ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-05-28 20:54   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-05-29  1:24     ` Isaku Yamahata
2024-05-28 23:06   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-05-29  1:57     ` Isaku Yamahata
2024-05-29  2:13       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-05-29 16:55         ` Isaku Yamahata
2024-05-15  0:59 ` [PATCH 11/16] KVM: x86/tdp_mmu: Extract root invalid check from tdx_mmu_next_root() Rick Edgecombe
2024-05-15  0:59 ` [PATCH 12/16] KVM: x86/tdp_mmu: Introduce KVM MMU root types to specify page table type Rick Edgecombe
2024-05-15  0:59 ` [PATCH 13/16] KVM: x86/tdp_mmu: Introduce shared, private KVM MMU root types Rick Edgecombe
2024-05-15  0:59 ` [PATCH 14/16] KVM: x86/tdp_mmu: Take root types for kvm_tdp_mmu_invalidate_all_roots() Rick Edgecombe
2024-05-15  0:59 ` [PATCH 15/16] KVM: x86/tdp_mmu: Make mmu notifier callbacks to check kvm_process Rick Edgecombe
2024-05-15  0:59 ` [PATCH 16/16] KVM: x86/tdp_mmu: Invalidate correct roots Rick Edgecombe

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