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From: "Kalra, Ashish" <ashish.kalra@amd.com>
To: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
Cc: "Pratik R. Sampat" <prsampat@amd.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, x86@kernel.org,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org,
	pbonzini@redhat.com, thomas.lendacky@amd.com, tglx@linutronix.de,
	mingo@redhat.com, bp@alien8.de, dave.hansen@linux.intel.com,
	shuah@kernel.org, pgonda@google.com, nikunj@amd.com,
	pankaj.gupta@amd.com, michael.roth@amd.com, sraithal@amd.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 00/10] Basic SEV-SNP Selftests
Date: Tue, 6 May 2025 12:06:03 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <eea8f995-cd9c-455e-82ed-a3d31b75f8eb@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aBleV3TlvA1QwcSZ@google.com>

Hello Sean,

On 5/5/2025 7:56 PM, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> On Mon, May 05, 2025, Ashish Kalra wrote:
>> On 5/5/2025 6:15 PM, Sean Christopherson wrote:
>>> @@ -3067,12 +3075,6 @@ void __init sev_hardware_setup(void)
>>>  
>>>         if (!sev_enabled)
>>>                 return;
>>> -
>>> -       /*
>>> -        * Do both SNP and SEV initialization at KVM module load.
>>> -        */
>>> -       init_args.probe = true;
>>> -       sev_platform_init(&init_args);
>>>  }
>>>  
>>>  void sev_hardware_unsetup(void)
>>> --
>>>
>>> Ashish, what am I missing?
>>>
>>
>> As far as setting sev*_enabled is concerned, i believe they are more specific
>> to SNP/SEV/SEV-ES being enabled in the system, which is separate from
>> SEV_INIT/SNP_INIT (SNP_INIT success indicates that RMP been initialized, SNP
>> has to be already enabled via MSR_SYSCFG before SNP_INIT is called), though
>> SEV_INIT/SNP_INIT may fail but SEV/SNP support will still be enabled on the
>> system.
> 
> No, if SNP_INIT fails and has zero chance of succeeding, then SNP is *NOT*
> supported *by KVM*.  The platform may be configured to support SNP, but that
> matters not at all if KVM can't actually use the functionality.
>

Yes, i agree.
 
>> Additionally as SEV_INIT/SNP_INIT during sev_platform_init() have failed, so
>> any SEV/SEV-ES/SNP VM launch will fail as the firmware will return invalid
>> platform state as INITs have failed.
> 
> Yeah, and that's *awful* behavior for KVM.  Imagine if KVM did that for every
> feature, i.e. enumerated hardware support irrespective of KVM support.
> 
> The API is KVM_GET_SUPPORTED_CPUID, not KVM_GET_MOSTLY_SUPPORTED_CPUID.
> 
>> >From my understanding, sev*_enabled indicates the user support to
>>> enable/disable support for SEV/SEV-ES/SEV-SNP, 
> 
> Yes, and they're also used to reflect and enumerate KVM support:
> 
> 	if (sev_enabled) {
> 		kvm_cpu_cap_set(X86_FEATURE_SEV);
> 		kvm_caps.supported_vm_types |= BIT(KVM_X86_SEV_VM);
> 	}
> 	if (sev_es_enabled) {
> 		kvm_cpu_cap_set(X86_FEATURE_SEV_ES);
> 		kvm_caps.supported_vm_types |= BIT(KVM_X86_SEV_ES_VM);
> 	}
> 	if (sev_snp_enabled) {
> 		kvm_cpu_cap_set(X86_FEATURE_SEV_SNP);
> 		kvm_caps.supported_vm_types |= BIT(KVM_X86_SNP_VM);
> 	}
> 
>> as the sev*_enabled are the KVM module parameters, while sev*_supported
>> indicates if platform has that support enabled.
> 
> sev*_supported are completely irrelevant.  They are function local scratch variables
> that exist so that KVM doesn't clobber userspace's inputs while computing what is
> fully supported and enabled.
> 

Ok.

>> And before the SEV/SNP init support was moved to KVM from CCP module, doing
>> SEV/SNP INIT could fail but that still had KVM detecting SEV/SNP support
>> enabled, so this moving SEV/SNP init stuff to KVM module from CCP driver is
>> consistent with the previous behavior.
> 
> And one of my driving motivations for getting the initialization into KVM was to
> fix that previous behavior.

Sure, i will test your patch and post it.  

Thanks,
Ashish

  reply	other threads:[~2025-05-06 17:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-03-05 22:59 [PATCH v8 00/10] Basic SEV-SNP Selftests Pratik R. Sampat
2025-03-05 22:59 ` [PATCH v8 01/10] KVM: SEV: Disable SEV-SNP support on initialization failure Pratik R. Sampat
2025-03-05 22:59 ` [PATCH v8 02/10] KVM: selftests: SEV-SNP test for KVM_SEV_INIT2 Pratik R. Sampat
2025-03-05 22:59 ` [PATCH v8 03/10] KVM: selftests: Add vmgexit helper Pratik R. Sampat
2025-03-06  4:38   ` Gupta, Pankaj
2025-03-05 22:59 ` [PATCH v8 04/10] KVM: selftests: Add SMT control state helper Pratik R. Sampat
2025-03-05 22:59 ` [PATCH v8 05/10] KVM: selftests: Replace assert() with TEST_ASSERT_EQ() Pratik R. Sampat
2025-03-05 22:59 ` [PATCH v8 06/10] KVM: selftests: Introduce SEV VM type check Pratik R. Sampat
2025-03-05 22:59 ` [PATCH v8 07/10] KVM: selftests: Add library support for interacting with SNP Pratik R. Sampat
2025-03-05 22:59 ` [PATCH v8 08/10] KVM: selftests: Force GUEST_MEMFD flag for SNP VM type Pratik R. Sampat
2025-03-05 22:59 ` [PATCH v8 09/10] KVM: selftests: Abstractions for SEV to decouple policy from type Pratik R. Sampat
2025-03-05 23:00 ` [PATCH v8 10/10] KVM: selftests: Add a basic SEV-SNP smoke test Pratik R. Sampat
2025-04-03 18:35 ` [PATCH v8 00/10] Basic SEV-SNP Selftests Pratik R. Sampat
2025-05-02 21:50 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-05-05 15:10   ` Pratik R. Sampat
2025-05-05 23:15     ` Sean Christopherson
2025-05-05 23:36       ` Kalra, Ashish
2025-05-06  0:56         ` Sean Christopherson
2025-05-06 17:06           ` Kalra, Ashish [this message]
2025-05-06  2:05       ` Pratik R. Sampat
2025-05-06 13:46         ` Sean Christopherson

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