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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: "Chenyi Qiang" <chenyi.qiang@intel.com>,
	"Baolu Lu" <baolu.lu@linux.intel.com>,
	"Alexey Kardashevskiy" <aik@amd.com>,
	"Peter Xu" <peterx@redhat.com>,
	"Gupta Pankaj" <pankaj.gupta@amd.com>,
	"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@linaro.org>,
	"Michael Roth" <michael.roth@amd.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	Williams Dan J <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	Peng Chao P <chao.p.peng@intel.com>,
	Gao Chao <chao.gao@intel.com>, Xu Yilun <yilun.xu@intel.com>,
	Li Xiaoyao <xiaoyao.li@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 10/13] memory: Change NotifyStateClear() definition to return the result
Date: Mon, 12 May 2025 09:54:08 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <fe236eaf-96b7-4b76-b2a8-f4e1935b4be7@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <55547b18-be03-4684-9330-70fc2ba48954@intel.com>

On 09.05.25 12:04, Chenyi Qiang wrote:
> 
> 
> On 5/9/2025 4:22 PM, Baolu Lu wrote:
>> On 4/27/2025 10:26 AM, Chenyi Qiang wrote:
>>> Hi David,
>>>
>>> Any thought on patch 10-12, which is to move the change attribute into a
>>> priority listener. A problem is how to handle the error handling of
>>> private_to_shared failure. Previously, we thought it would never be able
>>> to fail, but right now, it is possible in corner cases (e.g. -ENOMEM) in
>>> set_attribute_private(). At present, I simply raise an assert instead of
>>> adding any rollback work (see patch 11).
>>
>> Do the pages need to be pinned when converting them to a shared state
>> and unpinned when converting to a private state? Or is this handled
>> within the vfio_state_change_notify callbacks?
> 
> I think it is handled in vfio_state_change_notify(). Just like the
> device passthrough in legacy VM, the shared memory will be pinned during
> vfio dma-map and unpin during unmap.

We'll have to "unmap/unpin before shared->private" and "map/pin after 
private->shared" conversion.


vfio cannot fail unmap/unpin, but guest_memfd will be able to "easily" 
fail shared->private. But in that case (temporary references) we'll 
likely have to retry the conversion until it works.

guest_memfd cannot "easily" fail private->shared conversion, but vfio 
can fail map/pin, in which case we probably have to abort the conversion.

Error handling/recovery will be a bit more tricky than it is today.

-- 
Cheers,

David / dhildenb


  reply	other threads:[~2025-05-12  7:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-04-07  7:49 [PATCH v4 00/13] Enable shared device assignment Chenyi Qiang
2025-04-07  7:49 ` [PATCH v4 01/13] memory: Export a helper to get intersection of a MemoryRegionSection with a given range Chenyi Qiang
2025-04-09  2:47   ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-04-09  6:26     ` Chenyi Qiang
2025-04-09  6:45       ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-04-09  7:38         ` Chenyi Qiang
2025-05-12  3:24   ` Zhao Liu
2025-04-07  7:49 ` [PATCH v4 02/13] memory: Change memory_region_set_ram_discard_manager() to return the result Chenyi Qiang
2025-04-07  9:53   ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-04-08  0:50     ` Chenyi Qiang
2025-04-09  5:35   ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-04-09  5:52     ` Chenyi Qiang
2025-04-25 12:35       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-04-07  7:49 ` [PATCH v4 03/13] memory: Unify the definiton of ReplayRamPopulate() and ReplayRamDiscard() Chenyi Qiang
2025-04-09  5:43   ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-04-09  6:56     ` Chenyi Qiang
2025-04-25 12:44     ` David Hildenbrand
2025-04-25 12:42   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-04-27  2:13     ` Chenyi Qiang
2025-04-07  7:49 ` [PATCH v4 04/13] memory: Introduce generic state change parent class for RamDiscardManager Chenyi Qiang
2025-04-09  9:56   ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-04-09 12:57     ` Chenyi Qiang
2025-04-10  0:11       ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-04-10  1:44         ` Chenyi Qiang
2025-04-16  3:32           ` Chenyi Qiang
2025-04-17 23:10             ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-04-18  3:49               ` Chenyi Qiang
2025-04-25 12:54             ` David Hildenbrand
2025-04-25 12:49     ` David Hildenbrand
2025-04-27  1:33       ` Chenyi Qiang
2025-04-07  7:49 ` [PATCH v4 05/13] memory: Introduce PrivateSharedManager Interface as child of GenericStateManager Chenyi Qiang
2025-04-09  9:56   ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-04-10  3:47     ` Chenyi Qiang
2025-04-25 12:57   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-04-27  1:40     ` Chenyi Qiang
2025-04-29 10:01       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-04-07  7:49 ` [PATCH v4 06/13] vfio: Add the support for PrivateSharedManager Interface Chenyi Qiang
2025-04-09  9:58   ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-04-10  5:53     ` Chenyi Qiang
2025-04-07  7:49 ` [PATCH v4 07/13] ram-block-attribute: Introduce RamBlockAttribute to manage RAMBLock with guest_memfd Chenyi Qiang
2025-04-09  9:57   ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-04-10  7:37     ` Chenyi Qiang
2025-05-09  6:41   ` Baolu Lu
2025-05-09  7:55     ` Chenyi Qiang
2025-05-09  8:18       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-09 10:37         ` Chenyi Qiang
2025-05-12  8:07   ` Zhao Liu
2025-05-12  9:43     ` Chenyi Qiang
2025-05-13  8:31       ` Zhao Liu
2025-05-14  1:39         ` Chenyi Qiang
2025-04-07  7:49 ` [PATCH v4 08/13] ram-block-attribute: Introduce a callback to notify shared/private state changes Chenyi Qiang
2025-04-07  7:49 ` [PATCH v4 09/13] memory: Attach RamBlockAttribute to guest_memfd-backed RAMBlocks Chenyi Qiang
2025-04-07  7:49 ` [PATCH v4 10/13] memory: Change NotifyStateClear() definition to return the result Chenyi Qiang
2025-04-27  2:26   ` Chenyi Qiang
2025-05-09  2:38     ` Chao Gao
2025-05-09  8:20       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-09  9:19         ` Chenyi Qiang
2025-05-09  8:22     ` Baolu Lu
2025-05-09 10:04       ` Chenyi Qiang
2025-05-12  7:54         ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2025-04-07  7:49 ` [PATCH v4 11/13] KVM: Introduce CVMPrivateSharedListener for attribute changes during page conversions Chenyi Qiang
2025-05-09  9:03   ` Baolu Lu
2025-05-12  3:18     ` Chenyi Qiang
2025-04-07  7:49 ` [PATCH v4 12/13] ram-block-attribute: Add priority listener support for PrivateSharedListener Chenyi Qiang
2025-05-09  9:23   ` Baolu Lu
2025-05-09  9:39     ` Chenyi Qiang
2025-04-07  7:49 ` [PATCH v4 13/13] RAMBlock: Make guest_memfd require coordinate discard Chenyi Qiang

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