From: Juergen Gross <jgross@suse.com>
To: Quan Xu <quan.xu0@gmail.com>, Quan Xu <quan.xu03@gmail.com>,
kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org, x86@kernel.org,
xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org
Cc: Yang Zhang <yang.zhang.wz@gmail.com>,
Alok Kataria <akataria@vmware.com>,
Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC v3 1/6] x86/paravirt: Add pv_idle_ops to paravirt ops
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2017 08:30:40 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <fe6eeed1-4eee-eaaa-df3b-8979af8a3891@suse.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <902da704-1e4f-583b-91c3-1a62ccd6e73d@gmail.com>
On 14/11/17 08:02, Quan Xu wrote:
>
>
> On 2017/11/13 18:53, Juergen Gross wrote:
>> On 13/11/17 11:06, Quan Xu wrote:
>>> From: Quan Xu <quan.xu0@gmail.com>
>>>
>>> So far, pv_idle_ops.poll is the only ops for pv_idle. .poll is called
>>> in idle path which will poll for a while before we enter the real idle
>>> state.
>>>
>>> In virtualization, idle path includes several heavy operations
>>> includes timer access(LAPIC timer or TSC deadline timer) which will
>>> hurt performance especially for latency intensive workload like message
>>> passing task. The cost is mainly from the vmexit which is a hardware
>>> context switch between virtual machine and hypervisor. Our solution is
>>> to poll for a while and do not enter real idle path if we can get the
>>> schedule event during polling.
>>>
>>> Poll may cause the CPU waste so we adopt a smart polling mechanism to
>>> reduce the useless poll.
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Yang Zhang <yang.zhang.wz@gmail.com>
>>> Signed-off-by: Quan Xu <quan.xu0@gmail.com>
>>> Cc: Juergen Gross <jgross@suse.com>
>>> Cc: Alok Kataria <akataria@vmware.com>
>>> Cc: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
>>> Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
>>> Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>
>>> Cc: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
>>> Cc: x86@kernel.org
>>> Cc: virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org
>>> Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
>>> Cc: xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org
>> Hmm, is the idle entry path really so critical to performance that a new
>> pvops function is necessary?
> Juergen, Here is the data we get when running benchmark netperf:
> 1. w/o patch and disable kvm dynamic poll (halt_poll_ns=0):
> 29031.6 bit/s -- 76.1 %CPU
>
> 2. w/ patch and disable kvm dynamic poll (halt_poll_ns=0):
> 35787.7 bit/s -- 129.4 %CPU
>
> 3. w/ kvm dynamic poll:
> 35735.6 bit/s -- 200.0 %CPU
>
> 4. w/patch and w/ kvm dynamic poll:
> 42225.3 bit/s -- 198.7 %CPU
>
> 5. idle=poll
> 37081.7 bit/s -- 998.1 %CPU
>
>
>
> w/ this patch, we will improve performance by 23%.. even we could improve
> performance by 45.4%, if we use w/patch and w/ kvm dynamic poll. also the
> cost of CPU is much lower than 'idle=poll' case..
I don't question the general idea. I just think pvops isn't the best way
to implement it.
>> Wouldn't a function pointer, maybe guarded
>> by a static key, be enough? A further advantage would be that this would
>> work on other architectures, too.
>
> I assume this feature will be ported to other archs.. a new pvops makes
> code
> clean and easy to maintain. also I tried to add it into existed pvops,
> but it
> doesn't match.
You are aware that pvops is x86 only?
I really don't see the big difference in maintainability compared to the
static key / function pointer variant:
void (*guest_idle_poll_func)(void);
struct static_key guest_idle_poll_key __read_mostly;
static inline void guest_idle_poll(void)
{
if (static_key_false(&guest_idle_poll_key))
guest_idle_poll_func();
}
And KVM would just need to set guest_idle_poll_func and enable the
static key. Works on non-x86 architectures, too.
Juergen
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-11-14 7:30 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-11-13 10:05 [PATCH RFC v3 0/6] x86/idle: add halt poll support Quan Xu
2017-11-13 10:06 ` [PATCH RFC v3 1/6] x86/paravirt: Add pv_idle_ops to paravirt ops Quan Xu
2017-11-13 10:53 ` Juergen Gross
2017-11-13 11:09 ` Wanpeng Li
2017-11-14 7:02 ` Quan Xu
2017-11-14 7:12 ` Wanpeng Li
2017-11-14 8:15 ` Quan Xu
2017-11-14 8:22 ` Wanpeng Li
2017-11-14 10:23 ` Quan Xu
2017-11-14 7:30 ` Juergen Gross [this message]
2017-11-14 9:38 ` Quan Xu
2017-11-14 10:27 ` Juergen Gross
2017-11-14 11:43 ` Quan Xu
2017-11-14 11:58 ` Juergen Gross
2017-11-13 10:06 ` [PATCH RFC v3 2/6] KVM guest: register kvm_idle_poll for pv_idle_ops Quan Xu
2017-11-13 10:06 ` [PATCH RFC v3 3/6] sched/idle: Add a generic poll before enter real idle path Quan Xu
2017-11-15 12:11 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-11-15 22:03 ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-11-16 8:45 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-11-16 8:58 ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-11-16 9:29 ` Quan Xu
2017-11-16 9:47 ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-11-16 9:12 ` Quan Xu
2017-11-16 9:45 ` Daniel Lezcano
2017-11-20 7:05 ` Quan Xu
2017-11-20 18:01 ` Daniel Lezcano
2017-11-16 9:53 ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-11-17 11:23 ` Quan Xu
2017-11-17 11:36 ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-11-17 12:21 ` Quan Xu
2017-11-15 21:31 ` [Xen-devel] [PATCH RFC v3 0/6] x86/idle: add halt poll support Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2017-11-20 7:18 ` Quan Xu
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