From: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
To: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>
Cc: chrisw@redhat.com, kraxel@redhat.com, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, avi@redhat.com,
Paul Brook <paul@codesourcery.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 1/5] qdev: Create qdev_get_dev_path()
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 16:03:23 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m3631gqvys.fsf@blackfin.pond.sub.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1276813540.3216.52.camel@x201> (Alex Williamson's message of "Thu, 17 Jun 2010 16:25:40 -0600")
Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com> writes:
> On Wed, 2010-06-16 at 10:23 +0200, Markus Armbruster wrote:
>> Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com> writes:
>>
>> > On Tue, 2010-06-15 at 12:28 +0100, Paul Brook wrote:
>> >> > > Alex proposed to disambiguate by adding "identified properties of the
>> >> > > immediate parent bus and device" to the path component. For PCI, these
>> >> > > are dev.fn. Likewise for any other bus where devices have unambigous
>> >> > > bus address. The driver name carries no information!
>> >> >
>> >> > From user POV, driver names are very handly to address a device
>> >> > intuitively - except for the case you have tones of devices on the same
>> >> > bus that are handled by the same driver. For that case we need to
>> >> > augment the device name with a useful per-bus ID, derived from the bus
>> >> > address where available, otherwise based on instance numbers.
>> >>
>> >> This is where I think you're missing a trick. We don't need to augment the
>> >> name, we just need to allow the bus id to be used instead.
>> >
>> > For the case of a hot remove, I agree. If the user specifies "pci_del
>> > pci.0/03.0", that's completely sufficient because we don't care what's
>> > in that slot, just remove it. However, I still see some use cases for
>> > device names in the path. Take for example:
>> >
>> > (A): /i440FX-pcihost/pci.0/e1000.05.0
>> >
>> > vs
>> >
>> > (B): /pci.0/05.0
>> >
>> > (removing both the root bridge driver name and the device driver name)
>>
>> / is the main system bus. System bus defines no bus address at the
>> moment. Therefore, you have to use the driver name i440FX-pcihost.
>
> So is the general rule "If a device's parent bus does not provide an
> address, print device name"?
I think the general rule for constructing a *canonical* qdev path should
be:
* If it's the main system bus, the path is /.
* If it's another bus, the path is P/B, where P is the canonical path of
the device providing the bus, and B is the bus name. Unambiguous,
since no device ever defines two buses with the same name.
* If it's a device, the path is P/D, where P is the canonical path of
the bus. If the bus defines bus addresses, then D is @A, where A is
the device's bus address.
We haven't made up our minds whether the else case exists, or what to
do if it does. The simple "else D is the device model driver's name"
works only if the bus can't take multiple device models with the same
driver.
The canonical path is not the only path. For instance, a qdev ID is a
valid path, but it's not canonical. /i440FX-pcihost/pci.0/e1000 is
another valid, non-canonical path.
[...]
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-06-18 14:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 81+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-06-14 5:51 [RFC PATCH 0/5] Introduce canonical device hierarchy string Alex Williamson
2010-06-14 5:51 ` [RFC PATCH 1/5] qdev: Create qdev_get_dev_path() Alex Williamson
2010-06-14 6:39 ` [Qemu-devel] " Markus Armbruster
2010-06-14 12:52 ` Alex Williamson
2010-06-14 13:00 ` Jan Kiszka
2010-06-14 13:09 ` Paul Brook
2010-06-14 15:29 ` Alex Williamson
2010-06-14 15:42 ` Paul Brook
2010-06-14 16:00 ` Jan Kiszka
2010-06-14 16:38 ` Alex Williamson
2010-06-14 16:49 ` Jan Kiszka
2010-06-14 18:35 ` Alex Williamson
2010-06-14 21:43 ` Paul Brook
2010-06-14 22:11 ` Alex Williamson
2010-06-14 22:46 ` Paul Brook
2010-06-15 1:14 ` Alex Williamson
2010-06-15 11:24 ` Paul Brook
2010-06-15 8:47 ` Markus Armbruster
2010-06-15 9:34 ` Jan Kiszka
2010-06-15 11:28 ` Paul Brook
2010-06-15 11:45 ` Jan Kiszka
2010-06-15 12:04 ` Paul Brook
2010-06-15 12:16 ` Jan Kiszka
2010-06-15 12:39 ` Paul Brook
2010-06-15 13:00 ` Jan Kiszka
2010-06-15 13:14 ` Paul Brook
2010-06-15 13:16 ` Markus Armbruster
2010-06-15 13:32 ` Jan Kiszka
2010-06-15 20:53 ` Alex Williamson
2010-06-15 21:55 ` Paul Brook
2010-06-15 22:33 ` Alex Williamson
2010-06-15 23:01 ` Paul Brook
2010-06-15 23:10 ` Alex Williamson
2010-06-16 0:25 ` Chris Wright
2010-06-16 0:30 ` Paul Brook
2010-06-16 0:35 ` Chris Wright
2010-06-16 1:30 ` Paul Brook
2010-06-16 2:55 ` Alex Williamson
2010-06-16 8:23 ` Markus Armbruster
2010-06-17 22:25 ` Alex Williamson
2010-06-18 9:16 ` Jan Kiszka
2010-06-18 15:01 ` Alex Williamson
2010-06-18 15:22 ` Jan Kiszka
2010-06-18 14:03 ` Markus Armbruster [this message]
2010-06-18 14:14 ` Jan Kiszka
2010-06-18 15:21 ` Alex Williamson
2010-06-15 11:42 ` Markus Armbruster
2010-06-15 11:59 ` Jan Kiszka
2010-06-15 13:07 ` Markus Armbruster
2010-06-15 13:19 ` Paul Brook
2010-06-15 13:32 ` Paul Brook
2010-06-15 15:08 ` Jan Kiszka
2010-06-16 13:02 ` Markus Armbruster
2010-06-14 5:51 ` [RFC PATCH 2/5] savevm: Add DeviceState param Alex Williamson
2010-06-14 5:51 ` [RFC PATCH 3/5] savevm: Make use of the new " Alex Williamson
2010-06-14 5:51 ` [RFC PATCH 4/5] eepro100: Add a dev field to eeprom new/free functions Alex Williamson
2010-06-14 5:51 ` [RFC PATCH 5/5] virtio-net: Incorporate a DeviceState pointer and let savevm track instances Alex Williamson
2010-06-14 7:02 ` [RFC PATCH 0/5] Introduce canonical device hierarchy string Gerd Hoffmann
2010-06-14 19:56 ` Alex Williamson
2010-06-15 8:53 ` [Qemu-devel] " Markus Armbruster
2010-06-15 18:01 ` Alex Williamson
2010-06-16 8:34 ` Markus Armbruster
2010-06-16 8:36 ` Markus Armbruster
2010-06-15 9:12 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2010-06-15 18:03 ` Alex Williamson
2010-06-16 9:46 ` RFC qdev path semantics (was: [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 0/5] Introduce canonical device hierarchy string) Markus Armbruster
2010-06-16 10:40 ` Paul Brook
2010-06-16 11:37 ` RFC qdev path semantics Jan Kiszka
2010-06-16 11:45 ` Paul Brook
2010-06-16 12:01 ` Jan Kiszka
2010-06-16 12:21 ` [Qemu-devel] " Paul Brook
2010-06-16 13:50 ` Jan Kiszka
2010-06-16 13:05 ` Markus Armbruster
2010-06-16 13:23 ` Paul Brook
2010-06-16 14:31 ` [Qemu-devel] " Markus Armbruster
2010-06-17 21:43 ` Alex Williamson
2010-06-17 22:01 ` Paul Brook
2010-06-17 22:34 ` Alex Williamson
2010-06-18 7:52 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2010-06-18 14:58 ` Markus Armbruster
2010-06-22 14:27 ` Anthony Liguori
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