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From: fche@redhat.com (Frank Ch. Eigler)
To: Avi Kivity <avi@qumranet.com>
Cc: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@polymtl.ca>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch 0/4] Port KVM-trace to tracepoints
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:16:12 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <y0mabg991c3.fsf@ton.toronto.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <48862A30.7050701@qumranet.com> (Avi Kivity's message of "Tue, 22 Jul 2008 21:42:56 +0300")

Avi Kivity <avi@qumranet.com> writes:

> [...]
> kvm tracepoints are heavily tied into the implementation; and making
> them harder to write means we will have less information.  In fact, I
> am contemplating moving in another direction (when looking at the
> pgprintk()s scattered around arch/x86/kvm/mmu.c:
>
>   kvm_trace("pfentry", "page_fault entry addr %lx error code %x\n",
> cr2, error_code);
>
> Unlike printk()s, no actual formatting would occur during runtime.

Have you considered using trace_mark() directly - eliminating the
KVM_TRACEN() middlemen?

> Instead, at initialization time all the strings would be parsed into
> a data structure that describes the data types, and the runtime
> would simply consult this structure and copy the arguments into
> trace records.  User space would also be able to pull this structure
> and so recreate the formatted string.

If one really wanted to, one could build such a mechanism on top of
marker-based callbacks.

> The advantages I see to this are:
>
>  - easy to add traces; the most important advantage
>  - when the code changes, obsolete traces are completely removed
>  - good performance

Ditto.

>  - no need to have a formats file in userspace (which is tied to the
> kernel version)

OTOH, you'd have the kernel collecting compact binary records
containing just the parameters, which are at least as tied to kernel
version.

>  - can also send printk()s along, for synchronization with other kvm
> and kernel events

Ditto.  It is elementary to attach a printk-generating marker callback.


- FChE

  reply	other threads:[~2008-07-22 19:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-07-17 15:57 [patch 0/4] Port KVM-trace to tracepoints Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-07-17 15:57 ` [patch 1/4] kvm move VMCS Encodings to system headers Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-07-17 15:57 ` [patch 2/4] kvm move VMCS read " Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-07-17 15:57 ` [patch 3/4] KVM move register read-write " Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-07-17 15:57 ` [patch 4/4] KVM-trace port to tracepoints Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-07-17 16:49   ` Jan Kiszka
2008-07-17 17:28     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-07-22 16:04       ` Jan Kiszka
2008-07-22 18:46         ` Avi Kivity
2008-07-23  7:49           ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-07-23  8:08             ` Avi Kivity
2008-07-23  8:55               ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-07-23  9:32                 ` Avi Kivity
2008-07-23  9:53                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-07-23 13:15                     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-07-23 10:03                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-07-23 10:08                   ` Avi Kivity
2008-07-23 10:13                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-07-23 13:20               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-07-17 16:52   ` Anthony Liguori
2008-07-17 17:04     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-07-22 18:42 ` [patch 0/4] Port KVM-trace " Avi Kivity
2008-07-22 19:16   ` Frank Ch. Eigler [this message]
2008-07-22 19:31     ` Avi Kivity
2008-07-22 19:54       ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2008-07-22 22:12       ` [patch 0/4] Port KVM-trace to tracepoints -> LTTng ? Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-07-27 10:11         ` Avi Kivity
2008-07-28  0:54           ` [RFC] LTTng merge plan Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-07-29 16:18             ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2008-07-29 17:01               ` Mathieu Desnoyers

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