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From: Shameerali Kolothum Thodi <shameerali.kolothum.thodi@huawei.com>
To: Oliver Upton <oliver.upton@linux.dev>, Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>
Cc: "kvmarm@lists.linux.dev" <kvmarm@lists.linux.dev>,
	"catalin.marinas@arm.com" <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
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	"eric.auger@redhat.com" <eric.auger@redhat.com>,
	yuzenghui <yuzenghui@huawei.com>,
	"Wangzhou (B)" <wangzhou1@hisilicon.com>,
	jiangkunkun <jiangkunkun@huawei.com>,
	"Jonathan Cameron" <jonathan.cameron@huawei.com>,
	Anthony Jebson <anthony.jebson@huawei.com>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	Linuxarm <linuxarm@huawei.com>
Subject: RE: [RFC PATCH 0/6] KVM: arm64: Errata management for VM Live migration
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2024 15:51:37 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <08261a41b9644f5ab49063824e4060c3@huawei.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZwlADbp-HjkijElX@linux.dev>



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Oliver Upton <oliver.upton@linux.dev>
> Sent: Friday, October 11, 2024 4:11 PM
> To: Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>
> Cc: Shameerali Kolothum Thodi
> <shameerali.kolothum.thodi@huawei.com>; kvmarm@lists.linux.dev;
> catalin.marinas@arm.com; will@kernel.org; mark.rutland@arm.com;
> cohuck@redhat.com; eric.auger@redhat.com; yuzenghui
> <yuzenghui@huawei.com>; Wangzhou (B) <wangzhou1@hisilicon.com>;
> jiangkunkun <jiangkunkun@huawei.com>; Jonathan Cameron
> <jonathan.cameron@huawei.com>; Anthony Jebson
> <anthony.jebson@huawei.com>; linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org;
> Linuxarm <linuxarm@huawei.com>
> Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/6] KVM: arm64: Errata management for VM Live
> migration
> 
> On Fri, Oct 11, 2024 at 12:43:28PM +0100, Marc Zyngier wrote:
> > On Fri, 11 Oct 2024 11:57:10 +0100, Shameerali Kolothum Thodi
> <shameerali.kolothum.thodi@huawei.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Please take a look and let me know your thoughts.
> > > >
> > > > Having eyeballed this very superficially, I think we can do something
> > > > simpler, and maybe more future-proof:
> > >
> > > Thanks Marc for taking a look and the quick feedback.
> >
> > No worries, that's the least I could do given that you put the effort
> > implementing my silly ideas! ;-)
> >
> > > > - I don't think KVM should be concerned about the description of the
> > > >   target CPUs. The hypercall you defined is the right thing to do,
> > > >   but the VMM should completely handle it. That's an implementation
> > > >   detail, but it would make things much simpler.
> > >
> > > Ok. So does that mean the hypercall will use some sort of shared
> memory
> > > to retrieve the list of target CPUs from VMM?
> >
> > Two possibilities:
> >
> > - either shared memory, in which case the hypercall would require the
> >   guest to give an IPA and size for the VMM to write its stuff into
> >   the guest memory,
> >
> > - or more simply return the data as an MIDR/REVIDR pair in registers,
> >   the guest requesting an index, and getting an error when out of
> >   range, leaving it with the freedom to organise the storage.
> >
> > The second option is a bit slower, but way simpler, and it only
> > happens once per guest boot, so it would probably be my preferred
> > option unless this is proved to be impractical.
> 
> Also worth noting there's existing UAPI [*] for allowing userspace to
> register range(s) of hypercalls that it services directly. It's a bit
> weird that we'd allow userspace to do stuff in KVM's own hypercall
> range, but I don't think it really matters at this point since this is
> all prototyping.
> 
> [*]: https://docs.kernel.org/virt/kvm/devices/vm.html#attribute-kvm-arm-
> vm-smccc-filter-w-o

Thanks. Yes and there are attempts to add that handling in Qemu[*] in the context
of vCPU hotplug support(PSCI related ones though).  Will take a look.

Thanks,
Shameer
[1] https://lore.kernel.org/qemu-devel/20241009033704.250287-1-salil.mehta@huawei.com/


  reply	other threads:[~2024-10-11 15:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-10-11  7:50 [RFC PATCH 0/6] KVM: arm64: Errata management for VM Live migration Shameer Kolothum
2024-10-11  7:50 ` [RFC PATCH 1/6] arm64: Modify callback matches() fn to take a target info Shameer Kolothum
2024-10-11  7:50 ` [RFC PATCH 2/6] KVM: arm64: Add support for VMM to set migration target Shameer Kolothum
2024-10-11  7:50 ` [RFC PATCH 3/6] KVM: arm64: Introduce a helper to retrieve errata Shameer Kolothum
2024-10-11  7:50 ` [RFC PATCH 4/6] KVM: arm64: Add hypercall support for retrieving migration errata bitmap Shameer Kolothum
2024-10-11  7:50 ` [RFC PATCH 5/6] arm64: Use hypercall to check for any migration related errata Shameer Kolothum
2024-10-11  7:50 ` [RFC PATCH 6/6] arm64: errata: Set migration_safe_cap for MIDR based errata Shameer Kolothum
2024-10-11 10:37 ` [RFC PATCH 0/6] KVM: arm64: Errata management for VM Live migration Marc Zyngier
2024-10-11 10:57   ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi
2024-10-11 11:43     ` Marc Zyngier
2024-10-11 15:11       ` Oliver Upton
2024-10-11 15:51         ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi [this message]
2024-10-17 15:49           ` Cornelia Huck
2024-10-17 17:16             ` Eric Auger
2024-10-18  8:33               ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi
2024-10-18 12:28                 ` Cornelia Huck
2024-10-18 13:17               ` Marc Zyngier
2024-10-18 18:52                 ` Oliver Upton
2024-10-22 10:58                   ` Cornelia Huck
2024-10-22 12:52                     ` Marc Zyngier
2024-10-11 13:17 ` Cornelia Huck
2024-10-11 13:24   ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi
2024-10-11 14:14     ` Cornelia Huck
2024-10-11 17:07 ` Oliver Upton

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