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From: Cornelia Huck <cornelia.huck@de.ibm.com>
To: Pavel Fedin <p.fedin@samsung.com>
Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org, 'Marc Zyngier' <marc.zyngier@arm.com>,
	'Gleb Natapov' <gleb@kernel.org>,
	'Paolo Bonzini' <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	kvmarm@lists.cs.columbia.edu
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 2/2] KVM: Make KVM_CAP_IRQFD dependent on KVM_CAP_IRQCHIP
Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2015 15:38:07 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151130153807.1a2668e5.cornelia.huck@de.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <017801d12b6c$6a7c2c00$3f748400$@samsung.com>

On Mon, 30 Nov 2015 15:41:20 +0300
Pavel Fedin <p.fedin@samsung.com> wrote:

>  Hello!
> 
> > >  Thank you for the note, i didn't know about irqchip-specific capability codes. There's the
> > > same issue with PowerPC, now i
> > > understand why there's no KVM_CAP_IRQCHIP for them. Because they have KVM_CAP_IRQ_MPIC and
> > > KVM_CAP_IRQ_XICS, similar to S390.
> > >  But isn't it just weird? I understand that perhaps we have some real need to distinguish
> > > between different irqchip types, but
> > > shouldn't the kernel also publish KVM_CAP_IRQCHIP, which stands just for "we support some
> > > irqchip virtualization"?
> > >  May be we should just add this for PowerPC and S390, to make things less ambiguous?
> > 
> > Note that we explicitly need to _enable_ the s390 cap (for
> > compatibility). I'd need to recall the exact details but I came to the
> > conclusion back than that I could not simply enable KVM_CAP_IRQCHIP for
> > s390 (and current qemu would fail to enable the s390 cap if we started
> > advertising KVM_CAP_IRQCHIP now).
> 
>  OMG... I've looked at the code, what a mess...
>  If i was implementing this, i'd simply introduce kvm_vm_enable_cap(s, KVM_CAP_IRQCHIP, 0),
> which would be allowed to fail with -ENOSYS, so that backwards compatibility is kept and an existing API is reused... But, well,
> it's already impossible to unscramble an egg... :)
>  Ok, i think in current situation we could choose one of these ways (both are based on the fact that it's obvious that irqfd require
> IRQCHIP).
>  a) I look for an alternate way to report KVM_CAP_IRQFD dynamically, and maybe PowerPC and S390 follow this way.

The thing is: _when_ can you report KVM_CAP_IRQFD? It obviously
requires an irqchip; but if you need some configuration/enablement
beforehand, you'll get different values depending on when you retrieve
the cap. So does KVM_CAP_IRQFD mean "irqfds are available in principle"
or "everything has been setup for usage of irqfds"? I'd assume the
former.

>  b) I simply drop it as it is, because current qemu knows about the dependency and does not try to use irqfd without irqchip,
> because there's simply no use for them. But, well, perhaps there would be an exception in vhost, i don't remember testing it.

Wouldn't an irqfd emulation cover vhost?

>  So what shall we do?

  reply	other threads:[~2015-11-30 14:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-11-30  9:40 [PATCH v5 0/2] KVM: arm/arm64: Allow to use KVM without in-kernel irqchip Pavel Fedin
2015-11-30  9:40 ` [PATCH v5 1/2] arm/arm64: KVM: Detect vGIC presence at runtime Pavel Fedin
2016-04-21 21:41   ` Alexander Graf
2016-04-21 22:04     ` Peter Maydell
2016-04-21 22:35       ` Alexander Graf
2016-04-21 22:41         ` Peter Maydell
2016-04-22  7:50     ` Marc Zyngier
2015-11-30  9:40 ` [PATCH v5 2/2] KVM: Make KVM_CAP_IRQFD dependent on KVM_CAP_IRQCHIP Pavel Fedin
2015-11-30 11:26   ` Cornelia Huck
2015-11-30 11:56     ` Pavel Fedin
2015-11-30 12:13       ` Cornelia Huck
2015-11-30 12:41         ` Pavel Fedin
2015-11-30 14:38           ` Cornelia Huck [this message]
2015-11-30 14:45             ` Pavel Fedin
2015-12-01 11:07             ` Pavel Fedin
2015-12-01 16:00             ` Paolo Bonzini

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